What is your home insurance deductible?
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What is your home insurance deductible?
We are evaluating a new home insurance policy, and have the option to select a higher deductible, ranging from $2.5K to $5K to $10K, with a corresponding reduction in premiums. As reference, our current deductible is $1K.
My thinking on this is that I likely wouldn't file a claim for anything less than $2.5K anyway, so that's a pretty easy decision. The same could be said for a $5K claim.
What have others decided?
Thanks
My thinking on this is that I likely wouldn't file a claim for anything less than $2.5K anyway, so that's a pretty easy decision. The same could be said for a $5K claim.
What have others decided?
Thanks
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I’m also currently at $1000. I’ll probably reassess it before my next renewal in 2023. It was set that way when I bought my first house 15 years ago. I would check if A higher deductible would make a difference every few years and it never did. With the way insurance rates are raising I’m not sure if that still true.
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$5000 deductible. When I looked at a higher deductible the premium reduction didn't seem worth it. I guess the premium was unattractive with a $2500 deductible. Also, I probably figured I would hesitate to file a claim for anything between $2500 and $5000.
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One problem we realized when we decided to up the deductible is that *whatever* the deductible, there's still the decision of "how much above the deductible" would it need to be to file a claim.
I mean, with $5k, if the loss is $5,100, as a silly example, it's not worth making a claim and possibly affecting the claims history, etc. But $6k? $6,100? $6,500? $7k? What's the cutoff, and that's an issue no matter what the deductible.
That seems to be sort of an odd situation, but that *is* the situation any time there is a decision. Something like $20k, well, sure.
So why not up the deductible to $10k? Same problems... just starting at a higher threshold.
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I find the premium savings isn’t really worth it to go above 2500. Thinking about it, claims for a given policy are really rare, excluding some weather claims in parts of the country. And if you’re already at a 2500 deductible, claims tend to be large (say over 5000). So while a higher deductible means severity is lower for the company, we’re talking a very low probability of them saving $2500. So you might get a $50 lower premium. While I can afford a 5k claim, it’ll annoy me a heck of a lot more than the value is place on saving $50 a year.
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State laws come into play here. In my last state of residence, the max deductible was 1% of the home's value, which is what I set the policy to.
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Also Fannie Mae allows a max of 5% of the face amount, so if you have a mortgage you likely have that limit. One should check their mortgage docs.
OP I did the same thing a year ago, moved from $1000 to $2500 following a short thread here. Didn't use insurance in the past year and sold the house, so I guess I won.
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Ours is a percentage of the loss, not even sure whether it is 2 or 5% which reflects the choice of premium cost over concern for loss.
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$5K. USAA on CA home. I will think about raising to $10K on renewal. Never had a claim in 26 years.
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$1000. That is the maximum per our HOA.
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$2500. It's been awhile since I had our agent check, but last I checked the premium savings didn't seem worth it to go beyond $2500 or $5000.
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Thanks all. In looking at the policy quotes, the biggest savings for us comes from moving from $2.5K to $5K deductible, which lowers the annual premium by $755. Moving to $10K only lowers by another $355.
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I've never had a claim, basically I view HO insurance for total loss due to fire. I chose 10K because it lowered the "lost" premium, which over 30 years (and counting) will more than cover... Catastrophic loss only.
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10K deductible with USAA. If allowed, I'd increase it to 15K.
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$25,000. I plan never to file a claim unless the house burns down. I can afford to absorb a $25,000 loss (albeit painful) and don't believe in insuring anything I can afford to self-insure. It's a losers bet that always favors "the house." i.e. insurance company. You'll have smaller premiums, not have to hassle with third party reimbursement if you do have a loss, and your rates won't increase from making small claims (which are the whole point of having a low deductible).
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Well said. Max deductible with my current insurer is 2%. IIRC, going from the minimum $1K deductible to the 2% dropped my premium by about half.Outer Marker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:33 am $25,000. I plan never to file a claim unless the house burns down. I can afford to absorb a $25,000 loss (albeit painful) and don't believe in insuring anything I can afford to self-insure. It's a losers bet that always favors "the house." i.e. insurance company. You'll have smaller premiums, not have to hassle with third party reimbursement if you do have a loss, and your rates won't increase from making small claims (which are the whole point of having a low deductible).
I previously had a $50K deductible with Chubb. They have a unique policy where the deductible is waived on claims over $50K. So essentially, I couldn't claim any loss under $50K, but any loss over $50K was covered from the first dollar, with no deductible.
I buy homeowner's insurance to cover a catastrophic loss that would be financially devastating (i.e. total loss due to wildfire). For smaller issues that come up, I'll fix myself or pay out of pocket. Had a dishwasher leak a few years ago, for example, and might have paid $10K or more to have everything professionally fixed (flooring, drywall, etc.) but just did the work myself, paying $100 or so for materials.
It especially doesn't make sense to me when people have a $1K deductible and are reluctant to make a $5K claim because they're afraid it will raise their premium. If you're not even going to make a $5K claim, why pay extra for the low deductible?
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So, over 10 years, that $355 plus interest equals approximately $5,000 - or the entire amount of the lower deductible, which will then be in the insurance company's pocket, not yours. In 30+ years of home ownership, I have yet to file a home insurance claim. It adds up . . .LeftCoastIV wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:51 am Thanks all. In looking at the policy quotes, the biggest savings for us comes from moving from $2.5K to $5K deductible, which lowers the annual premium by $755. Moving to $10K only lowers by another $355.
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Our deductible for everything except hurricane is $5,000. Hurricane deductible is $6,820.
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Happy this topic came along. I checked my coverage, and my deductible is $1,000. I called the insurance company, and they can go up to $2,500 max for a deductible. That will save me $260/year, so I went ahead with the change. Better than nothing. And, since my policy renewed four months ago, they will send a check for the prorated difference.
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Here is where the issue comes in. Let's say you have an issue and the estimate to fix it is $6,000. You start with the repairs and then find embedded issue #1.1 which is an additional $6,000 to fix.ResearchMed wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:37 pm [...]
One problem we realized when we decided to up the deductible is that *whatever* the deductible, there's still the decision of "how much above the deductible" would it need to be to file a claim.
I mean, with $5k, if the loss is $5,100, as a silly example, it's not worth making a claim and possibly affecting the claims history, etc. But $6k? $6,100? $6,500? $7k? What's the cutoff, and that's an issue no matter what the deductible.
That seems to be sort of an odd situation, but that *is* the situation any time there is a decision. Something like $20k, well, sure.
So why not up the deductible to $10k? Same problems... just starting at a higher threshold.
RM
I don't know how the insurance will react if you tell them that this is a $12,000 issue ... and that you are already $6,000 in the hole which was not inspected and approved by their adjuster.
That really is the risk you would be really taking.
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I presently have Chubb and the $50k deductible. And I agree with your other sentiments as well. Nothing to do with premium cost reduction.discman017 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:37 am.
I previously had a $50K deductible with Chubb. They have a unique policy where the deductible is waived on claims over $50K. So essentially, I couldn't claim any loss under $50K, but any loss over $50K was covered from the first dollar, with no deductible.
I buy homeowner's insurance to cover a catastrophic loss that would be financially devastating (i.e. total loss due to wildfire). For smaller issues that come up, I'll fix myself or pay out of pocket.
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$2,500 if memory serves me. I have a guaranteed replacement cost policy.
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$2,500 with high level replacement cost.
Note: we reduced our cost of insurance by stepping down to the lowest level, the portion of the insurance that covers the contents of our home.
It seems the insurance company thought we were housing a couple Van Goughs.
Note: we reduced our cost of insurance by stepping down to the lowest level, the portion of the insurance that covers the contents of our home.
It seems the insurance company thought we were housing a couple Van Goughs.
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Seems to recall not much savings beyond $1k deductible. This might be different in other area of the country so would reconsider when moving down to Florida.
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I think it’s 1% of replacement cost on the house, and $1000 on the contents. The higher deductible saved us quite a bit. It was a few years ago, though, so I don’t remember exactly how much.
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$500/ with USAA on 1M home.
It came in handy when things like roof or costly items have to be replaced. I don't want to be 'afraid' to make a claim if it costs $5k or 1%..
My car deductible is $100/claim which has came in handy several times
I think the premium difference was maybe $100/month? I don't recall exactly, so I do not have the exact numbers to compare pros vs cons.
It came in handy when things like roof or costly items have to be replaced. I don't want to be 'afraid' to make a claim if it costs $5k or 1%..
My car deductible is $100/claim which has came in handy several times
I think the premium difference was maybe $100/month? I don't recall exactly, so I do not have the exact numbers to compare pros vs cons.
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Fair point. While I don't recall the premiums, I guess the savings for deductibles of $7500 or even $10,000 (if I checked) didn't seem attractive enough to me to switch. So, in other words I wanted to have the option to file a claim for over $5000. It doesn't mean that I necessarily would, but I wasn't willing to forego that possibility just to save the premium differential, if you follow.ResearchMed wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:37 pm
One problem we realized when we decided to up the deductible is that *whatever* the deductible, there's still the decision of "how much above the deductible" would it need to be to file a claim.
I mean, with $5k, if the loss is $5,100, as a silly example, it's not worth making a claim and possibly affecting the claims history, etc. But $6k? $6,100? $6,500? $7k? What's the cutoff, and that's an issue no matter what the deductible.
That seems to be sort of an odd situation, but that *is* the situation any time there is a decision. Something like $20k, well, sure.
So why not up the deductible to $10k? Same problems... just starting at a higher threshold.
RM
I've never filed a claim, though I feel as if I have paid Chubb plenty over the years. I know, one should be happy their home didn't burn down. It just stings to receive non-trivial premium hikes each year. Admittedly, I did get a reduction one year, but that feels like ancient history now.
I just keep reminding myself that the policy is intended to make the prospect of being displaced (homeless) a bit more bearable by, I hope, not having to deal with "nickel and diming" on claims. Untested, so far, but hoping that Chubb will live up to my perception / understanding of their reputation.
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Here is how premiums change for increasing the deductible on our homeowners insurance policy.LeftCoastIV wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:35 pm We are evaluating a new home insurance policy, and have the option to select a higher deductible, ranging from $2.5K to $5K to $10K, with a corresponding reduction in premiums. As reference, our current deductible is $1K.
My thinking on this is that I likely wouldn't file a claim for anything less than $2.5K anyway, so that's a pretty easy decision. The same could be said for a $5K claim.
What have others decided?
Thanks
Deductible levels offered range from $500 to $10,000. The premium reduction for increasing the deductible would be as follows:
$500 to $1,000 = -$160 (I am at $1,000 currently)
$1,000 to $1,500 = -$90
$1,500 to $2,000 = -$65
$2,000 to $2,500 = -$60
$2,500 to $5,000 = -$130 (or $26 for each $500 increment)
$5,000 to $10,000 = -$140 (or $14 for each $500 increment)
The benefit from each successive $500 increase gets smaller and smaller.
We are currently at $1,000, but had an issue recently where we spent $1,500 to repair damage from a broken pipe in our basement. We ate the costs as I decided going through insurance for a claim at this level was not worth it.
Documented the thought process in this thread.
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I should probably increase it to $2,500, but the savings is so small ($215) I haven't gotten around to it. On the one hand, we should not have it at $1,000 (as I know I am not going to submit a claim for $1,500 or even $2,000). On the other, if we had a large claim (say $5,000 or more) where we would file, having the costs covered beginning at $1,001 has some appeal.
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$5,000 here. The jump from $2,500 to $5,000 was several hundred dollars savings, but the savings above that were nominal at best. One of our policies has the deductible waiver over a $50k loss.
I, personally, would not make a claim under $10k. I see homeowners insurance as catastrophe insurance, which is why you should have a good emergency fund. I have never understood why people get add ons like refrigerator contents and mechanical breakdown. Every claim you make is going to ding you in the long run with not only higher rates, but possibly fewer insurers willing to work with you.
I, personally, would not make a claim under $10k. I see homeowners insurance as catastrophe insurance, which is why you should have a good emergency fund. I have never understood why people get add ons like refrigerator contents and mechanical breakdown. Every claim you make is going to ding you in the long run with not only higher rates, but possibly fewer insurers willing to work with you.
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Are you worried that making so many claims might lead to the insurance companies deciding you aren’t worth the risk? From what I understand the insurance companies have something called maybe a clue report and if one has too many claims they’ll decline to offer a policy and /or make it prohibitively expensiveglashutte wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:27 pm $500/ with USAA on 1M home.
It came in handy when things like roof or costly items have to be replaced. I don't want to be 'afraid' to make a claim if it costs $5k or 1%..
My car deductible is $100/claim which has came in handy several times
I think the premium difference was maybe $100/month? I don't recall exactly, so I do not have the exact numbers to compare pros vs cons.
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$1,000.00. I am in the rust belt.
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It crossed my mind but I don’t know for certain if different insurances share a database to know who files claims. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do though…Living Free wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:48 pmAre you worried that making so many claims might lead to the insurance companies deciding you aren’t worth the risk? From what I understand the insurance companies have something called maybe a clue report and if one has too many claims they’ll decline to offer a policy and /or make it prohibitively expensiveglashutte wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:27 pm $500/ with USAA on 1M home.
It came in handy when things like roof or costly items have to be replaced. I don't want to be 'afraid' to make a claim if it costs $5k or 1%..
My car deductible is $100/claim which has came in handy several times
I think the premium difference was maybe $100/month? I don't recall exactly, so I do not have the exact numbers to compare pros vs cons.
However I’m more afraid of having to pay 1% to fix something ‘big’. I’m my case 1% may be $10,000 so I rather pay a higher premium
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I’ve thought about this over the years and concluded that what I really want is a minimum claim instead of a deductible.
I’m not going to make a small claim, but if I do make a claim, I don’t want to pay anything. In other words, I take care of 100% of the small stuff and you take care of 100% of the big stuff.
I wasn't aware of the Chubb deductible waiver at $50K so thank you for that information.
I’m not going to make a small claim, but if I do make a claim, I don’t want to pay anything. In other words, I take care of 100% of the small stuff and you take care of 100% of the big stuff.
I wasn't aware of the Chubb deductible waiver at $50K so thank you for that information.
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I believe this database shows most claims (home, auto).glashutte wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:55 amIt crossed my mind but I don’t know for certain if different insurances share a database to know who files claims. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do though…Living Free wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:48 pmAre you worried that making so many claims might lead to the insurance companies deciding you aren’t worth the risk? From what I understand the insurance companies have something called maybe a clue report and if one has too many claims they’ll decline to offer a policy and /or make it prohibitively expensiveglashutte wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:27 pm $500/ with USAA on 1M home.
It came in handy when things like roof or costly items have to be replaced. I don't want to be 'afraid' to make a claim if it costs $5k or 1%..
My car deductible is $100/claim which has came in handy several times
I think the premium difference was maybe $100/month? I don't recall exactly, so I do not have the exact numbers to compare pros vs cons.
However I’m more afraid of having to pay 1% to fix something ‘big’. I’m my case 1% may be $10,000 so I rather pay a higher premium
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Very helpful and good to know, thanks.JAZZISCOOL wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:13 amI believe this database shows most claims (home, auto).glashutte wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:55 amIt crossed my mind but I don’t know for certain if different insurances share a database to know who files claims. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do though…Living Free wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:48 pmAre you worried that making so many claims might lead to the insurance companies deciding you aren’t worth the risk? From what I understand the insurance companies have something called maybe a clue report and if one has too many claims they’ll decline to offer a policy and /or make it prohibitively expensiveglashutte wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:27 pm $500/ with USAA on 1M home.
It came in handy when things like roof or costly items have to be replaced. I don't want to be 'afraid' to make a claim if it costs $5k or 1%..
My car deductible is $100/claim which has came in handy several times
I think the premium difference was maybe $100/month? I don't recall exactly, so I do not have the exact numbers to compare pros vs cons.
However I’m more afraid of having to pay 1% to fix something ‘big’. I’m my case 1% may be $10,000 so I rather pay a higher premium
https://risk.lexisnexis.com/products/clue-auto
https://risk.lexisnexis.com/products/clue-property
Are their ways to work with this? Such as for married couple, having their home under husband's name only. Then if making too many claims, transfer home ownership to wife's name only and exclude husbands name?
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$45k. WIth current insurance as horrible as it is, we use it mainly for catastrophic coverage like a fire burning the whole place down. Our annual premium would more than double at the lowest deductibles.
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Re: What is your home insurance deductible?
$10k currently and I might go higher on next renewal. I'm not a "claimer" in general, so higher deductibles work out for me over the long term. In contrast I worked with a guy that seemed to suffer an endless series of calamities with his house and he was on to his agent every other week. He got value out of the lowest deductible possible.
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Generally speaking, go as high as you can afford to lose. Insurance is a product and the insurance company would sell you as much as you'll buy, since they stand to make a profit. Likewise, the "expected value" of increasing you deductible to $2,500 or $10,000, etc should leave money in your pocket. Of course, the reduced premium isn't all "savings," since your loss potential goes up., and you could have the bad luck to come out behind (in the event you have a significant claim. But, the odds are with you - and, again, you're betting what you can afford to lose.
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I can't answer all of your questions. I was able to pull a LexisNexis Consumer report (some BH's have referred to this as a "CLUE" report in the past, I believe) a year ago. I assume it uses the above databases. It gives one a lot of information about their financial past including insurance coverage, etc.. It is through LexisNexis Risk Solutions.glashutte wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:12 pmVery helpful and good to know, thanks.JAZZISCOOL wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:13 amI believe this database shows most claims (home, auto).glashutte wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:55 amIt crossed my mind but I don’t know for certain if different insurances share a database to know who files claims. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do though…Living Free wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:48 pmAre you worried that making so many claims might lead to the insurance companies deciding you aren’t worth the risk? From what I understand the insurance companies have something called maybe a clue report and if one has too many claims they’ll decline to offer a policy and /or make it prohibitively expensiveglashutte wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:27 pm $500/ with USAA on 1M home.
It came in handy when things like roof or costly items have to be replaced. I don't want to be 'afraid' to make a claim if it costs $5k or 1%..
My car deductible is $100/claim which has came in handy several times
I think the premium difference was maybe $100/month? I don't recall exactly, so I do not have the exact numbers to compare pros vs cons.
However I’m more afraid of having to pay 1% to fix something ‘big’. I’m my case 1% may be $10,000 so I rather pay a higher premium
https://risk.lexisnexis.com/products/clue-auto
https://risk.lexisnexis.com/products/clue-property
Are their ways to work with this? Such as for married couple, having their home under husband's name only. Then if making too many claims, transfer home ownership to wife's name only and exclude husbands name?
https://consumer.risk.lexisnexis.com/consumer
Maybe others can chime in.