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carminered2019 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:50 pm This deserves a bump today and happy days are right around the corner !!!!
It is nice to occasionally see the color green.
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frugalecon wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:17 pm
carminered2019 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:50 pm This deserves a bump today and happy days are right around the corner !!!!
It is nice to occasionally see the color green.
Lately, I've almost wished I had red-green color blindness.
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carminered2019 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:50 pm This deserves a bump today and happy days are right around the corner !!!!
Go green!
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Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:07 am
carminered2019 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:50 pm This deserves a bump today and happy days are right around the corner !!!!
Go green!
hell yes, a green day is a good day !!
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For those of you finding relief from a positive day like today, I wouldn’t get too excited.

FWIW, the S&P’s YTD trend remains strongly negative:


For the first 79 trading days of the year (not including today), the index’s daily performance is averaging down 7.48 points a day

For 46 of these 79 days, the index’s performance has been negative averaging a decline of 48.56 points

The remaining 43 days, which have all posted gains, have averaged an increase of 49.78 points

January - daily average decrease of 12.53 points

February - daily average decrease of 7.45 points

March - daily average increase of 6.80 points

April (as of the 26th) - daily average decrease of 20.89 points. 6 positive days with an average daily increase of 35.88 points compared to 11 negative days with an average daily decrease of 51.86 points.


Until this negative trend and the S&P 500, which is heavily and negatively impacted by tech’s negative performance, breaks out of this downward trading range (particularly April’s accelerated negative performance), it’s difficult for me to understand why people feel compelled to post to this thread and see stocks as “continuing to soar”.
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Fortitude wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:22 pm For those of you finding relief from a positive day like today, I wouldn’t get too excited.

FWIW, the S&P’s YTD trend remains strongly negative:


For the first 79 trading days of the year (not including today), the index’s daily performance is averaging down 7.48 points a day

For 46 of these 79 days, the index’s performance has been negative averaging a decline of 48.56 points

The remaining 43 days, which have all posted gains, have averaged an increase of 49.78 points

January - daily average decrease of 12.53 points

February - daily average decrease of 7.45 points

March - daily average increase of 6.80 points

April (as of the 26th) - daily average decrease of 20.89 points. 6 positive days with an average daily increase of 35.88 points compared to 11 negative days with an average daily decrease of 51.86 points.


Until this negative trend and the S&P 500, which is heavily and negatively impacted by tech’s negative performance, breaks out of this downward trading range (particularly April’s accelerated negative performance), it’s difficult for me to understand why people feel compelled to post to this thread and see stocks as “continuing to soar”.
Probably because they are just tired of posting to the other one. Gotta mix it up sometimes.
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If you pay attention to the mods' notes, this thread is for posting about "US stocks (increasing)" regardless of what's happening in actual markets. So, please, take your bearish comments to the "US stocks (decreasing)" thread. :beer
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Futures are solidly green. :moneybag
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Boy am I glad I moved from 3x nasdaq bear (FnGD) to FNGu 3x Bull day or two ago loaded on 12 11 10.9, lesgo.

I need fngu to rip to 25+ pretty please 🙏 .
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Dead cat bounce? Or live cat bounce?
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newyorker wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:54 am Dead cat bounce? Or live cat bounce?
Heisenberg cat bounce
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Impressive how the Fed has steered us into a recession before even raising rates twice
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atdharris wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:28 am Impressive how the Fed has steered us into a recession before even raising rates twice
Where do you see a recession coming, and how are you attributing that to the Fed?
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Marseille07 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:34 am
atdharris wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:28 am Impressive how the Fed has steered us into a recession before even raising rates twice
Where do you see a recession coming, and how are you attributing that to the Fed?
We had a negative GDP first look this morning primarily caused by strength in imports and lower government spending. A lot of folks were expecting a zero instead we got a negative number.
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TheTimeLord wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:39 am
Marseille07 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:34 am
atdharris wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:28 am Impressive how the Fed has steered us into a recession before even raising rates twice
Where do you see a recession coming, and how are you attributing that to the Fed?
We had a negative GDP first look this morning primarily caused by strength in imports and lower government spending. A lot of folks were expecting a zero instead we got a negative number.
Thank you. I wasn't aware GDP was out this morning.

While at it, I don't see why equities are +1% on that either :D
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Marseille07 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:41 am
TheTimeLord wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:39 am
Marseille07 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:34 am
atdharris wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:28 am Impressive how the Fed has steered us into a recession before even raising rates twice
Where do you see a recession coming, and how are you attributing that to the Fed?
We had a negative GDP first look this morning primarily caused by strength in imports and lower government spending. A lot of folks were expecting a zero instead we got a negative number.
Thank you. I wasn't aware GDP was out this morning.

While at it, I don't see why equities are +1% on that either :D
Probably because the market thinks the Fed won't tighten as aggressively if a recession is looming. The problem is, we still have inflation
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Marseille07 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:41 am
TheTimeLord wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:39 am
Marseille07 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:34 am
atdharris wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:28 am Impressive how the Fed has steered us into a recession before even raising rates twice
Where do you see a recession coming, and how are you attributing that to the Fed?
We had a negative GDP first look this morning primarily caused by strength in imports and lower government spending. A lot of folks were expecting a zero instead we got a negative number.
Thank you. I wasn't aware GDP was out this morning.

While at it, I don't see why equities are +1% on that either :D
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Marseille07 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:41 am
TheTimeLord wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:39 am
Marseille07 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:34 am
atdharris wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:28 am Impressive how the Fed has steered us into a recession before even raising rates twice
Where do you see a recession coming, and how are you attributing that to the Fed?
We had a negative GDP first look this morning primarily caused by strength in imports and lower government spending. A lot of folks were expecting a zero instead we got a negative number.
Thank you. I wasn't aware GDP was out this morning.

While at it, I don't see why equities are +1% on that either :D
As I understand it conventional wisdom is this is more a statistical blip than a trend.

Here is some info from the St. Louis Fed:
The typical textbook treatment of GDP is the expenditure approach, where spending is categorized into the following buckets: personal consumption expenditures (C); gross private investment (I); government purchases (G); and net exports (X – M), composed of exports (X) and imports (M). Textbooks often capture this in one relatively simple equation:

GDP = C + I + G + (X – M).
https://research.stlouisfed.org/publica ... affect-gdp
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Yeah, I don't think we can really attribute this GDP data on the Fed. I mean we are talking about Q1 advanced estimate and the rate hike took place on March 15~16, i.e. almost the end of the quarter.
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The soaring is over.
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lostdog wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:45 am The soaring is over.
LOL... I always read something like that, so I go check, because I thought it was up, and yes, it started going back up about ten minutes after you wrote that.

Still nearly 1% up.

Maybe you should "VT and chill".... :)
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HomerJ wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:35 am
lostdog wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:45 am The soaring is over.
LOL... I always read something like that, so I go check, because I thought it was up, and yes, it started going back up about ten minutes after you wrote that.

Still nearly 1% up.

Maybe you should "VT and chill".... :)

The soaring ain't over until it goes red!
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It's hard to know where we end up. This market is gyrating up and down
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HomerJ wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:35 am
lostdog wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:45 am The soaring is over.
LOL... I always read something like that, so I go check, because I thought it was up, and yes, it started going back up about ten minutes after you wrote that.

Still nearly 1% up.

Maybe you should "VT and chill".... :)
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up to the moon and bye bye bottom !!
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Whoop my fngu is 15% green from my avg shr basis of 10.75 10.9 11.2 11.4 11.65 .

Now now :sharebeer should I sell before the next dump :confused
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The chart is upside down today :confused
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My end-of-month finance update is still going to be a sad one despite today.
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Entering the finally stretch. Can we make it? The tension is palpable, like a wet, hot sponge. This just might be a "rip your shirt off" stonks moment, folks! If only we can pull through till the end, one half-hour more. Let's goooooooo.
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Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:07 am Go green!
Go white! :D
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dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:41 pm
Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:07 am Go green!
Go white! :D
Are we pulling for the New York Jets? :D

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Stinky wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:53 pm
dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:41 pm
Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:07 am Go green!
Go white! :D
Are we pulling for the New York Jets? :D

(green and white uniforms)
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dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:19 pm
Stinky wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:53 pm
dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:41 pm
Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:07 am Go green!
Go white! :D
Are we pulling for the New York Jets? :D

(green and white uniforms)
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Stinky wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:53 pm
dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:41 pm
Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:07 am Go green!
Go white! :D
Are we pulling for the New York Jets? :D

(green and white uniforms)
The Jets have been in “correction territory” for awhile now (and I’m a Jets fan) 😔
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dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:19 pm
Stinky wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:53 pm
dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:41 pm
Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:07 am Go green!
Go white! :D
Are we pulling for the New York Jets? :D

(green and white uniforms)
No, the JETE are truly Stinky! It's a Michigan State call and return. :beer
Folks here in SEC country don’t understand “green and white”. :D
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Stinky wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:58 pm
dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:19 pm
Stinky wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:53 pm
dogagility wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:41 pm
Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:07 am Go green!
Go white! :D
Are we pulling for the New York Jets? :D

(green and white uniforms)
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elderwise wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:32 pm My 3X nasdaq bull funds thank you for your service (buy the dips)
.

Glad I exited 3X inverse fund fngd at small gain.
Can we start a new thread for elderwise's trades as well? I'm tired of hearing about them. Be nice to have a separate thread I can ignore.
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I merged elderwise's trade discussion into a new thread. See: elderwise's investment side discussion

Anyone who wants to discuss their investments is welcome to start a new thread in the Personal Investments and link to that thread from here (or U.S. stocks in free fall).

Use this thread for discussing the US market (increasing).

(Thanks to the member who reported the post and explained what's wrong.)
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Thank you HomerJ & LadyGeek
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LadyGeek wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:29 am I merged elderwise's trade discussion into a new thread. See: elderwise's investment side discussion

Anyone who wants to discuss their investments is welcome to start a new thread in the Personal Investments and link to that thread from here (or U.S. stocks in free fall).

Use this thread for discussing the US market (increasing).

(Thanks to the member who reported the post and explained what's wrong.)
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OK, I see green, let’s gain some momentum with this thread? Forget the past, look forward.
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Silverado wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:31 pm OK, I see green, let’s gain some momentum with this thread? Forget the past, look forward.
Is this not 401k funds buying at end of the month?
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456M wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:43 pm
Silverado wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:31 pm OK, I see green, let’s gain some momentum with this thread? Forget the past, look forward.
Is this not 401k funds buying at end of the month?
We have pretty much established that between varying paydays and varying times from payroll to 401k administrator, there is no noticeable effect from this.
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It was me. I bought some VTSAX with the end of month dividend from the bonds in my retirement fund.

Who knew that $300. could move the needle like that?
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BarbBrooklyn wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:38 pm It was me. I bought some VTSAX with the end of month dividend from the bonds in my retirement fund.

Who knew that $300. could move the needle like that?
And your purchase yesterday has propelled the market upward again today.

What power you have!! :D
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Sorry guys, stocks ain't soaring. They are still deep in correction territory.
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Well this thread is certainly a sight for soar eyes. 😝
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willthrill81 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:58 am Sorry guys, stocks ain't soaring. They are still deep in correction territory.
You choose your starting point, we’ll choose ours. I define each morning to be time equal to zero, and select my thread appropriately.
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willthrill81 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:58 am Sorry guys, stocks ain't soaring. They are still deep in correction territory.
We define time in nano-seconds, so at any point that the stock market is higher than any prior point, we can use this thread.
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drg02b wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 11:58 am
willthrill81 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:58 am Sorry guys, stocks ain't soaring. They are still deep in correction territory.
We define time in nano-seconds, so at any point that the stock market is higher than any prior point, we can use this thread.
Apparently so. Under that framework, stocks could drop by 90%, then go up by 1 cent, and posts in this thread would be acceptable.

Whatever.
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