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TheTimeLord wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:38 pm To me it seems to make it very difficult to tell what the last poster was responding to, especially if it is a small section that they highlighted.
People should get in the habit of quoting only that small section, by deleting the rest of the quoted post while leaving the opening and closing quote tags intact.

People who want to see the complete original post can click/tap on the up-arrow next to the quoted poster's name, which zips them up-thread to that post. Then click/tap on their browser's "back" or "previous page" button, which zips them back down-thread to where they came from.
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I'm going to spend more time on the site to see if I like it better. I have to say I hated the endless scrolling of back and forth quotes. Half the time people just do it because they're too tired? unaware? that they should be hitting the POST A REPLY button, and instead they automatically quote everything, all the time.

At first blush I think it looks so much more efficient.
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Supergrover wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:00 pm unaware? that they should be hitting the POST A REPLY button
Indeed, if I'm using my desktop iMac (as I am now) or my MacBook, the "Post Reply" button at the bottom of the thread gives me the easiest way to quote selectively, without doing a lot of fiddly editing. Below the empty editing box, I see a "thread review" which shows all the posts in reverse order. I can use my mouse or trackpad to select the text that I want to respond to, then click the "quote" button at the top right of that post (in the thread review). That selection gets pasted into the editing box, with the proper quote tags. Easy-peasy.

If I want to quote more than one chunk of text, even from different posts, I can use the same method, one chunk at a time.

The big problem with this method for me is that it doesn't work on my iPhone or iPad, at least when using Safari as my browser. When I select a chunk of text in the thread review and click the quote button, it quotes the entire post. :annoyed So when I'm using those devices, I have to edit quotes by hand anyway.
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I agree completely with Alex.

See what I did there? I didn’t quote him.
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UpperNwGuy wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:19 am I agree completely with Alex.

See what I did there? I didn’t quote him.
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rob wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:05 pm I have to say the recent change to long quotes makes this site FAR LESS usable.... The scrolling flips to the quote as it goes underneath and stops scrolling the main conversation. While I may be in the minority - it's a TERRIBLE UI change IMO.
What browser/OS are you using? I have not experienced this myself. On a touch screen, I just avoid the yellow boxes when putting my finger on the screen to initiate a scroll. When using a mouse scroll wheel it ignores the boxes unless I click in it. The other ways I can think of to scroll (clicking and dragging in the browser scroll bar or using page up, page down, or arrow keys) aren't affected by the scrollable text box.

Even if it does scroll the entire box as you go over it, it would take exactly as much time to scroll as the full quote text in its non-scrollable box.

Anyway you can turn this feature off if you want (and are logged in). Go to User Control Panel - Edit Display Option (or just click the link) and set the option "Would you like quoted posts to be compressed with a scroll bar?" to "No".

Edit: I think I understand. If I'm using the scroll wheel and stop scrolling and the pointer is inside a scrollable quote box, when I start scrolling again it will scroll the quote before continuing to scroll the rest of the page. That seems like a good thing to me since I don't have to click to read the contents of a scrollable quote box and I can avoid it entirely by either stopping my scroll over blue text or keeping the pointer to the side of the text area.
rob wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:05 pm Don't let the cursor focus automatically swap to the quote on entry but insist on a click event in the quote to flip focus. The trend of flipping focus as the site like is a huge UI issue.
This is going to be something related to the specific setup of your browser. phpBB doesn't set a focus on topic pages.
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Alex Frakt wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:01 pm
Stinky wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:41 pmAs a fairly frequent Forum responder who often pares down quoted text in a post, a scroll bar would really mess things up for me.
Why? I get 10 lines of quote text on my phone before the scroll starts. Isn't that enough to show what you are responding to especially if you are trimming the quotes? The scrolled text box does not show up when you are writing a post.

As for reading, I mostly read the forum on my phone. It's only taken a few attempted scrolls on a text box before my brain-finger interface has adapted to avoiding the yellow bits when scrolling. And it's so much nicer that the amount of scrolling per page has been cut down substantially.
Completely agree. So much nicer now. And this coming from an old guy who usually hates change.
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UpperNwGuy wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:19 am I agree completely with Alex.

See what I did there? I didn’t quote him.
Of course the obvious question is on what do you agree with Alex or is that just a general affirmation? Bad Timelord, bad, bad.

I can live with it either way, I just find having to scroll through a tiny box harder to follow who is saying what but it isn't going to kill me to do.
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TheTimeLord wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:38 pm
To me it seems to make it very difficult to tell what the last poster was responding to, especially if it is a small section that they highlighted.


Agreed.

I thought I turned the new feature off, but I still get the scroll bar.

Appreciate the forums greatly and not complaining. I always found it easy to skip long quotes. Just skip through. Now I have to spend more time figuring out what was being quoted :?.
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22twain wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:22 am The big problem with this method for me is that it doesn't work on my iPhone or iPad, at least when using Safari as my browser. When I select a chunk of text in the thread review and click the quote button, it quotes the entire post. :annoyed So when I'm using those devices, I have to edit quotes by hand anyway.
I long ago reported this to the phpBB team, https://tracker.phpbb.com/browse/PHPBB-17238. No ETA on a fix unfortunately
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TheTimeLord wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:35 am
I can live with it either way, I just find having to scroll through a tiny box harder to follow who is saying what but it isn't going to kill me to do.
You can turn off the scroll box in preferences if you would rather have the full amount of quoted text displayed.
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clip651 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:41 am
TheTimeLord wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:35 am
I can live with it either way, I just find having to scroll through a tiny box harder to follow who is saying what but it isn't going to kill me to do.
You can turn off the scroll box in preferences if you would rather have the full amount of quoted text displayed.
Done, thanks.
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UpperNwGuy wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:19 am I agree completely with Alex.

See what I did there? I didn’t quote him.
However, since it's now on another page of posts I have no idea what he said. Never will spend the time to go find out what someone else said when there is no quote present. Results in me not knowing at all what you agree with.
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clip651 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:41 am
TheTimeLord wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:35 am
I can live with it either way, I just find having to scroll through a tiny box harder to follow who is saying what but it isn't going to kill me to do.
You can turn off the scroll box in preferences if you would rather have the full amount of quoted text displayed.


I turned it off - double-checked - and it's still on on my Samsung tablet.

:?

It seems to be off on my desktop.

So, variable maybe?
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PeninsulaPerson wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:11 am
clip651 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:41 am


You can turn off the scroll box in preferences if you would rather have the full amount of quoted text displayed.


I turned it off - double-checked - and it's still on on my Samsung tablet.

:?

It seems to be off on mu desktop.

So, variable maybe?
I wonder if you had changed the preferences via your desktop browser, and now you need to log off & log back in on the tablet for the preference to take effect on the tablet? Worth a try.
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Try clearing your browser cache. You'll get logged out when that happens and you'll need to log back in again.
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sycamore wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:16 am
PeninsulaPerson wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:11 am



I turned it off - double-checked - and it's still on on my Samsung tablet.

:?

It seems to be off on my desktop.

So, variable maybe?
I wonder if you had changed the preferences via your desktop browser, and now you need to log off & log back in on the tablet for the preference to take effect on the tablet? Worth a try.


Nope - the opposite, actually.

I may try to clear the cache on the tablet but ....

... I get that there were quoting complaints and that's what the mods are trying to address. Maybe there were more silent non-complaints? Why can't anyone who doesn't like long quotes just skip through? It's not like there is a charge per line :).

Plus sometimes someone will delete or change a post and sometimes it's useful if a record is there in someone else's quoted reply.

Just a thought - not a huge problem, by any means.
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PeninsulaPerson wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:26 am
sycamore wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:16 am

I wonder if you had changed the preferences via your desktop browser, and now you need to log off & log back in on the tablet for the preference to take effect on the tablet? Worth a try.


Nope - the opposite, actually.

I may try to clear the cache on the tablet but ....

... I get that there were quoting complaints and that's what the mods are trying to address. Maybe there were more silent non-complaints? Why can't anyone who doesn't like long quotes just skip through? It's not like there is a charge per line :).

Plus sometimes someone will delete or change a post and sometimes it's useful if a record is there in someone else's quoted reply.

Just a thought - not a huge problem, by any means.
As someone who almost never reads the quotes unless I am quoting the latest one and replying to it .... the present setup (if one opts in for it) is much more streamlined, which allows one to much more quickly to skip through the quoting. Therefore, major improvement for someone like me. Seems like we are down to two camps. Those for whom the old way was the best and those for whom the new way is best.
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yankees60 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:46 am Seems like we are down to two camps. Those for whom the old way was the best and those for whom the new way is best.
Yep. It seems that whatever it is, opinions fall into at least three camps: those that are for it, those who are against, and a third group that doesn't understand the question. :wink:

Nedsaid was against. My first reaction was, "what is this?"
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Recently, I’ve started to experience a change in which quoted posts in yellow boxes now require scrolling. Anyone else? It is a real pain, makes it far less usable. Why oh why was this done? Everything was fine beforehand; this was definitely a change for the worse.
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Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:10 pm Recently, I’ve started to experience a change in which quoted posts in yellow boxes now require scrolling. Anyone else? It is a real pain, makes it far less usable. Why oh why was this done? Everything was fine beforehand; this was definitely a change for the worse.
This thread explains the change:

viewtopic.php?t=440729

You can go into your settings and change it so that the quotes are not in scroll boxes if you like (see above thread for details).
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I really don’t like these changes. In addition to what others have said, there is already too much misquoting and misinterpretation going on. My words get twisted up the ying-Yang, with people changing words and changing the context of sentences. Context matters for meaning. Eliminating the entire quoted history (of a given posters’ free will) only risks worsening this.
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Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:31 pm I really don’t like these changes. In addition to what others have said, there is already too much misquoting and misinterpretation going on. My words get twisted up the ying-Yang, with people changing words and changing the context of sentences. Context matters for meaning. Eliminating the entire quoted history (of a given posters’ free will) only risks worsening this.
This pretty well summarizes my thoughts on this.
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I followed the instructions provided upthread for how to get rid of the scroll feature and restore it back to its prior form. But it still isn’t working? Anyone know why?
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nedsaid wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:40 am
yankees60 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:46 am Seems like we are down to two camps. Those for whom the old way was the best and those for whom the new way is best.
Yep. It seems that whatever it is, opinions fall into at least three camps: those that are for it, those who are against, and a third group that doesn't understand the question. :wink:

Nedsaid was against. My first reaction was, "what is this?"
Seems parallel to these three?

1) Those who make things happen.

2) Those who watch things happen.

3) Those who don't even know anything happened.
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Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:10 pm Recently, I’ve started to experience a change in which quoted posts in yellow boxes now require scrolling. Anyone else? It is a real pain, makes it far less usable. Why oh why was this done? Everything was fine beforehand; this was definitely a change for the worse.
Why is it worse? It's either less scrolling if you don't stop the pointer in a scrollable box or literally the same amount of scrolling if you do. Remember that if the box wasn't there, you'd be scrolling across the full length of the quote.
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Alex Frakt wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:56 pm
Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:10 pm Recently, I’ve started to experience a change in which quoted posts in yellow boxes now require scrolling. Anyone else? It is a real pain, makes it far less usable. Why oh why was this done? Everything was fine beforehand; this was definitely a change for the worse.
Why is it worse? It's either less scrolling if you don't stop the pointer in a scrollable box or literally the same amount of scrolling if you do. Remember that if the box wasn't there, you'd be scrolling across the full length of the quote.
Thanks for putting in this change. I think it's an improvement. Even better would be if that scroll box could default to be fully scrolled to the bottom (since most of the time, the last bit of the quote has the most pertinent context)
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Alex Frakt wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:56 pm
Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:10 pm Recently, I’ve started to experience a change in which quoted posts in yellow boxes now require scrolling. Anyone else? It is a real pain, makes it far less usable. Why oh why was this done? Everything was fine beforehand; this was definitely a change for the worse.
Why is it worse? It's either less scrolling if you don't stop the pointer in a scrollable box or literally the same amount of scrolling if you do. Remember that if the box wasn't there, you'd be scrolling across the full length of the quote.

It's worse because instead of being able to simply put my finger on the 'down arrow'' to scroll down as I read, now I have to do 7 steps: (1) stop on every post with a quote, (2) grab my mouse and mouse over to the separate scroll bar within the quote box, (3) click on it, (4) mouse it down slowly to read (doesn't help that it's so tiny), and (5) then when done mouse back over to the other scroll bar, (6) click on it, and (7) move slowly to the next post down, repeat. In summary, it takes 10 minutes to read what used to take 1 minute, and it requires tons of mouse movements and clicks. It's going to give some folks carpal tunnel syndrome.
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yankees60 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 3:27 pm
nedsaid wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:40 am

Yep. It seems that whatever it is, opinions fall into at least three camps: those that are for it, those who are against, and a third group that doesn't understand the question. :wink:

Nedsaid was against. My first reaction was, "what is this?"
Seems parallel to these three?

1) Those who make things happen.

2) Those who watch things happen.

3) Those who don't even know anything happened.
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I moved an interchange by rob into the ongoing discussion.
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thank goodness for this change! BRAVO!
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Alex Frakt wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:56 pm
Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:10 pm Recently, I’ve started to experience a change in which quoted posts in yellow boxes now require scrolling. Anyone else? It is a real pain, makes it far less usable. Why oh why was this done? Everything was fine beforehand; this was definitely a change for the worse.
Why is it worse? It's either less scrolling if you don't stop the pointer in a scrollable box or literally the same amount of scrolling if you do. Remember that if the box wasn't there, you'd be scrolling across the full length of the quote.
On a laptop, before I could just read (or skim) the quote and scroll the whole screen as needed. Now if I want to read the quotes (I often want to at least skim them to see what in particular is being replied to in a longer thread), I have to pause and scroll the quote separately (mouse click, scroll wheel, etc). Whether I want to scroll the quote or not, I have to pay more attention to where I click and how I'm scrolling.

And on a phone, it's a lot more finger movements, and having to hit them in just the right spots to move what I want to move (e.g. scroll to read the quote or scroll to move the whole thread along). Maybe your fingers are long enough and accurate enough to easily reach whatever part of the screen you want over and over while reading a long thread and trying to relax. I have small hands and a big phone, so it's not that easy. Plus, the box to read the quote on my phone screen is tiny. So I can't even see a full sentence at a time if people are writing complex sentencees. Not easy for me to read and follow complicated text in small boxes like that. And yes, I do typically read (or skim) the quotes in place, rather than jumping back to the original place they were posted and then jumping back.

Thankfully, you gave us the option to turn it off in preferences, which I've done. But by no means is this easier for everyone. Some people will love it and some will not. Depends on how they like to read, how they like to scroll (mouse, arrow key, etc), what device they are using, etc. And not everyone will even realize they can change the preference.
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Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 5:40 pm
Alex Frakt wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:56 pm
Why is it worse? It's either less scrolling if you don't stop the pointer in a scrollable box or literally the same amount of scrolling if you do. Remember that if the box wasn't there, you'd be scrolling across the full length of the quote.

It's worse because instead of being able to simply put my finger on the 'down arrow'' to scroll down as I read, now I have to do 7 steps: (1) stop on every post with a quote, (2) grab my mouse and mouse over to the separate scroll bar within the quote box, (3) click on it, (4) mouse it down slowly to read (doesn't help that it's so tiny), and (5) then when done mouse back over to the other scroll bar, (6) click on it, and (7) move slowly to the next post down, repeat. In summary, it takes 10 minutes to read what used to take 1 minute, and it requires tons of mouse movements and clicks. It's going to give some folks carpal tunnel syndrome.
Hot Sauce, sorry if I missed it but have you turned the scrolling option off?

1. Browse here: ucp.php?i=ucp_prefs&mode=view
2. Look for "Would you like quoted posts to be compressed with a scroll bar?:" and click the No button.
3. Click the Submit button
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sycamore wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:56 pm
Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 5:40 pm


It's worse because instead of being able to simply put my finger on the 'down arrow'' to scroll down as I read, now I have to do 7 steps: (1) stop on every post with a quote, (2) grab my mouse and mouse over to the separate scroll bar within the quote box, (3) click on it, (4) mouse it down slowly to read (doesn't help that it's so tiny), and (5) then when done mouse back over to the other scroll bar, (6) click on it, and (7) move slowly to the next post down, repeat. In summary, it takes 10 minutes to read what used to take 1 minute, and it requires tons of mouse movements and clicks. It's going to give some folks carpal tunnel syndrome.
Hot Sauce, sorry if I missed it but have you turned the scrolling option off?

1. Browse here: ucp.php?i=ucp_prefs&mode=view
2. Look for "Would you like quoted posts to be compressed with a scroll bar?:" and click the No button.
3. Click the Submit button
I tried those steps, but they didn’t work. I have no idea why they aren’t working. I posted this in the other thread dedicated to this topic, but no solutions offered there.
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Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:00 pm
sycamore wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:56 pm
Hot Sauce, sorry if I missed it but have you turned the scrolling option off?

1. Browse here: ucp.php?i=ucp_prefs&mode=view
2. Look for "Would you like quoted posts to be compressed with a scroll bar?:" and click the No button.
3. Click the Submit button
I tried those steps, but they didn’t work. I have no idea why they aren’t working. I posted this in the other thread dedicated to this topic, but no solutions offered there.
Bummer, that's too bad. I don't have any other suggestions :(
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One bug to report. The red “topic starter” indicator disappeared as of the most current update on 13 Oct. 2024. Its restoration would be nice.
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Sorry about that, my fault. It's fixed.
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[Posts merged into here --admin LadyGeek]

There is a bug that is preventing my selection of the non-scrolling posts to revert back. Appreciate if this could be fixed.
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Re: Forum software upgrade bug reports and change requests

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Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:30 pm There is a bug that is preventing my selection of the non-scrolling posts to revert back. Appreciate if this could be fixed.
Update: there is something really goofy going on.

I followed the instruction to eliminate the quote scrolling feature. Didn’t work. Tried again later, still didn’t work. Tried again later, worked! Logged out. Logged back on. No longer working. Went to the settings, and it showed that it was still set to “no scrolling” even though it wasn’t working, i.e., it was scrolling.

So it’s really hit-and miss, and it isn’t “sticking” but rather going back and forth.
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Re: Changes to help cut down excessive quotations

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LadyGeek wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:34 pm Sorry about that, my fault. It's fixed.
No need to apologize. Appreciate the quick fix!
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Re: Forum software upgrade bug reports and change requests

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Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:59 pm
Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:30 pm There is a bug that is preventing my selection of the non-scrolling posts to revert back. Appreciate if this could be fixed.
Update: there is something really goofy going on.

I followed the instruction to eliminate the quote scrolling feature. Didn’t work. Tried again later, still didn’t work. Tried again later, worked! Logged out. Logged back on. No longer working. Went to the settings, and it showed that it was still set to “no scrolling” even though it wasn’t working, i.e., it was scrolling.

So it’s really hit-and miss, and it isn’t “sticking” but rather going back and forth.
After making your change, did you hit the "Submit" button at bottom of page? I ask because it seemed to work when I tried it just now. (Will wait until tomorrow to see if selection was saved. I'll reply if it wasn't.)
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Re: Changes to help cut down excessive quotations

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Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:30 pm [Posts merged into here --admin LadyGeek]

There is a bug that is preventing my selection of the non-scrolling posts to revert back. Appreciate if this could be fixed.
I moved your post (and follow-ups) into the ongoing discussion.

Try clearing your browser cache. You'll be logged out when that happens.
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Re: Forum software upgrade bug reports and change requests

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dratkinson wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:16 am
After making your change, did you hit the "Submit" button at bottom of page? I ask because it seemed to work when I tried it just now. (Will wait until tomorrow to see if selection was saved. I'll reply if it wasn't.)

I think that might be the problem on my tablet.

Didn't realize that I had to confirm my choice by hitting the Submit box.

Will try that and report back.

All seems fine (no scrolling) on my laptop where I did see the Submit button and hit it.

(Reluctant to clear cache unless I know that's the problem as that clears other logins and etc. out too!)

Thanks again for the great forum - this is a minor thing but I just wanted to speak up about what I was seeing.
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Re: Changes to help cut down excessive quotations

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LadyGeek wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:19 am
Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:30 pm [Posts merged into here --admin LadyGeek]

There is a bug that is preventing my selection of the non-scrolling posts to revert back. Appreciate if this could be fixed.
I moved your post (and follow-ups) into the ongoing discussion.

Try clearing your browser cache. You'll be logged out when that happens.
I cleared the browser cache. Here’s what happened next:

I logged in, changed the setting to “don’t scroll in quote boxes”, then clicked submit. It prevented scrolling. Then I logged out. Then I logged back in. It was scrolling. I looked at the settings and it stills shows as not scrolling, even though it is scrolling.

I’m confused and don’t know what to do next.
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Re: Forum software upgrade bug reports and change requests

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dratkinson wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:16 am
Hot Sauce wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:59 pm

Update: there is something really goofy going on.

I followed the instruction to eliminate the quote scrolling feature. Didn’t work. Tried again later, still didn’t work. Tried again later, worked! Logged out. Logged back on. No longer working. Went to the settings, and it showed that it was still set to “no scrolling” even though it wasn’t working, i.e., it was scrolling.

So it’s really hit-and miss, and it isn’t “sticking” but rather going back and forth.
After making your change, did you hit the "Submit" button at bottom of page? I ask because it seemed to work when I tried it just now. (Will wait until tomorrow to see if selection was saved. I'll reply if it wasn't.)
I’m replying to your question to differentiate from another person who relied to our back-and-forth, lol.

I did click submit.
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Re: Forum software upgrade bug reports and change requests

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Hot Sauce wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:39 pm
dratkinson wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:16 am

After making your change, did you hit the "Submit" button at bottom of page? I ask because it seemed to work when I tried it just now. (Will wait until tomorrow to see if selection was saved. I'll reply if it wasn't.)
I’m replying to your question to differentiate from another person who relied to our back-and-forth, lol.

I did click submit.

I logged out earlier today - because I always do.

Just logged back in and it's scrolling on my laptop :oops:.

Maybe the "Submit" button isn't causing a "permanent" change - does it have to be reconfirmed every time?

Thank you!
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Re: Forum software upgrade bug reports and change requests

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PeninsulaPerson wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:01 pm
Hot Sauce wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:39 pm

I’m replying to your question to differentiate from another person who relied to our back-and-forth, lol.

I did click submit.

I logged out earlier today - because I always do.

Just logged back in and it's scrolling on my laptop :oops:.

Maybe the "Submit" button isn't causing a "permanent" change - does it have to be reconfirmed every time?

Thank you!
The changes aren’t “sticking” upon logout.

Good to know that I’m not the only person this is happening to. Welcome to the party!
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Re: Forum software upgrade bug reports and change requests

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Hot Sauce wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:40 pm
PeninsulaPerson wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:01 pm


I logged out earlier today - because I always do.

Just logged back in and it's scrolling on my laptop :oops:.

Maybe the "Submit" button isn't causing a "permanent" change - does it have to be reconfirmed every time?

Thank you!
The changes aren’t “sticking” upon logout.

Good to know that I’m not the only person this is happening to. Welcome to the party!


I confess, I was fine with it the way it was.

Maybe it's too bad the the scrolling change couldn't have been an affirmative choice that those who wanted it could have "signed up" for!

P.S. Now it's not scrolling on my laptop. Is it possible this is some sort of intermittent bug?!
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Re: Changes to help cut down excessive quotations

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PeninsulaPerson wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:34 pm P.S. Now it's not scrolling on my laptop. Is it possible this is some sort of intermittent bug?!
PeninsulaPerson wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:56 am (Reluctant to clear cache unless I know that's the problem as that clears other logins and etc. out too!)
Try clearing your laptop's browser cache. I understand the reluctance, but you should always be prepared for losing your logins when your browser does something unexpectedly.

This is a good time to make sure you know all your passwords. If you need help with managing your passwords, feel free to start a thread in the consumer issues forum.
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