Stuck Gas Gauge
Stuck Gas Gauge
It seems the gas gage in my 2013 Camry is stuck on full. Is there an easy way to fix this? If not, what might the cost be to have it fixed at an independent mechanic? My owner's manual does not address this.
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Happened to me a long time ago (2003 Pontiac Grand Am).
Couple months after it happened, I filled the tank and topped it off more than I typically would. It fixed the problem.
Next time I overfilled, it stuck so I overfilled again and it fixed the issue again.
Couple months after it happened, I filled the tank and topped it off more than I typically would. It fixed the problem.
Next time I overfilled, it stuck so I overfilled again and it fixed the issue again.
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have you searched on UTube on how to fix the gas gauge? Start there!
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YouTube is your friend. Search there for gas sender and/or fuel pump. Often the sender is integral with the fuel pump assembly.
On some cars it's accessible by removing covers under the back seat or truck. Others require removal of the gas tank.
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Diagnosis is needed. Usually testing the gauge on the instrument cluster is done first because it's easy with a bi-directional scan tool. If not that, which it likely isn't, check for a ground/connector issue before dropping the tank. If not that, drop the tank enough to access and remove the fuel pump, and inspect mechanical and/or test resistance on the float sending unit. I'd estimate this would be $500-1000 at an independent shop to fix.
Cheap alternative, use the trip odometer, reset after fill up, estimate MPG conservatively.
Cheap alternative, use the trip odometer, reset after fill up, estimate MPG conservatively.
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This is how it’s done on most motorcycles.
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Last 2 of 3 cars we owned had broken fuel gauges. Both were very expensive fuel electronic units. Never replaced them.
Just made a low estimate of max miles to drive before refill and reset the trip meter every gas fill up. Was never an issue.
Only problem is emissions on one car. The fuel issue sends a check engine light after a fill up. So I had to play the check engine light reset game to pass, lol.
Just made a low estimate of max miles to drive before refill and reset the trip meter every gas fill up. Was never an issue.
Only problem is emissions on one car. The fuel issue sends a check engine light after a fill up. So I had to play the check engine light reset game to pass, lol.
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Most, but not all.
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I had a “good news gas gauge” in college. I used the odometer method to fill up.
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Maybe you have an electrical problem that is related to your 12 volt charger in your other post?
You could carefully try to move the needle with a strong magnet.
You could carefully try to move the needle with a strong magnet.
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That is an interesting thought. However, since the charging problem is the same across two cars, it seems unlikely.
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I am not sure what that was about but one thing to consider is that if your car battery is old then some other car electronics can get wonky. If your car battery is 5+ years old then it would not hurt to replace it even if it tests OK. That is a bit of a longshot but it couldn't hurt.
Last edited by Watty on Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Somtimes the sender can get gunked up on older cars. Try filling the tank from almost empty with Top-Tier detergent premium gasoline and add one bottle of Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner. Do not refill the tank until almost empty again. If it works, great, if not, only out a few bucks and your fuel system is clean!
https://gumout.com/fuel-additives/regan ... m-cleaner/
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
https://gumout.com/fuel-additives/regan ... m-cleaner/
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
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I have been using only Top Tear gasoline. Running the tank to almost empty is kind of dangerous without a working gauge. Perhaps the fuel system cleaner will help. Thanks for the suggestion.Carlton wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:05 pm Somtimes the sender can get gunked up on older cars. Try filling the tank from almost empty with Top-Tier detergent premium gasoline and add one bottle of Gumout Regane Complete Fuel System Cleaner. Do not refill the tank until almost empty again. If it works, great, if not, only out a few bucks and your fuel system is clean!
https://gumout.com/fuel-additives/regan ... m-cleaner/
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
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We had two gas gauges go bad within the space of a year on two different cars. It never happened before or (cross fingers) since. We can't prove it but a few years later we read that the senders--of that era, anyway, this was around the early 2000's--used silver contacts in the gas tank, and that sulfur in gas can damage them. It might be different from yours because the symptom was that the gas gauge constantly read empty, not full, but a quick web search says the damage can manifest either way.
So we either had bad luck and a strange coincidence, or we encountered some bad gas. Disappointing because we only used name-brand gas.
Each time it was about a $200 repair to replace the sending units. We were told it was necessary to drain the gas tank to replace the sender.
So we either had bad luck and a strange coincidence, or we encountered some bad gas. Disappointing because we only used name-brand gas.
Each time it was about a $200 repair to replace the sending units. We were told it was necessary to drain the gas tank to replace the sender.
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I have a 99 corvette and it’s a common problem of the float sticking due to sulfur deposits. Using a cleaner like Techron seems to help some people.
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I would bet that both cars were GM products, as was the 99 Corvette referenced above. I had a 2000 GMC Sierra that had this problem, which was well known problem on several GM models, and was a boon to mechanics everywhere. The gas gage would start to fluctuate erratically, then the truck would shut down, always while driving, usually on the freeway. All of a sudden you're traveling at 65 miles an hour and lose power steering and brakes when your engine shuts off because the computer thinks you've just run out of gas. Problem is that it always happened with a full tank of gas, and to fix it, the gas needed to be removed from the tank and the tank removed in order to change the sensor. GM never acknowledged that it was a recall problem, even though many crashes resulted from the failure.nisiprius wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:37 pm We had two gas gauges go bad within the space of a year on two different cars. It never happened before or (cross fingers) since. We can't prove it but a few years later we read that the senders--of that era, anyway, this was around the early 2000's--used silver contacts in the gas tank, and that sulfur in gas can damage them. It might be different from yours because the symptom was that the gas gauge constantly read empty, not full, but a quick web search says the damage can manifest either way.
So we either had bad luck and a strange coincidence, or we encountered some bad gas. Disappointing because we only used name-brand gas.
Each time it was about a $200 repair to replace the sending units. We were told it was necessary to drain the gas tank to replace the sender.
The culprit was a cheap fuel sensor in the gas tank that needed to be replaced. The repair cost me $800 circa 2010. That convinced me never to buy another GM product.
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Do you have a P0463 trouble code (and check engine light on)? Here's a video that shows how to test the fuel level sensor.
https://www.700r4transmissionhq.com/toyota-camry-p0463/
If you don't have or know how to use an ohm meter, then this will be impossible for you and you'll need to pay a mechanic to fix it (some mechanics are electrically stupid, so you may want to try your Toyota dealer for this, but this is about as simple as things can get other than simple on/off). Note that you do not need to remove the sending unit to make a few tests (but the hard part may be getting access to its connectors without dropping the fuel tank -- hope you have an access hole in the trunk). Measure the resistance value now and see if it is between the low and high range. Then, go to the gas station and fill the tank and repeat the test. It should have the resistance that correlates to full.
Some cars when you pull the connector off the sending unit puts the gauge to either full or empty. So a broken or corroded wire could also be the cause. If you really understand electronics, you could pull the connectors off the fuel sending unit and put resistors of known values across the wires and see if the fuel gauge reads correctly. If it does, the sending unit is most likely bad. Now days, many gauges are driven by the computer based on inputs from sensors, so things can be more complicated. If you have a good code reader scan tool, it can most likely tell you what it thinks the fuel level is (which is probably 100% so not helping you much).
https://www.700r4transmissionhq.com/toyota-camry-p0463/
If you don't have or know how to use an ohm meter, then this will be impossible for you and you'll need to pay a mechanic to fix it (some mechanics are electrically stupid, so you may want to try your Toyota dealer for this, but this is about as simple as things can get other than simple on/off). Note that you do not need to remove the sending unit to make a few tests (but the hard part may be getting access to its connectors without dropping the fuel tank -- hope you have an access hole in the trunk). Measure the resistance value now and see if it is between the low and high range. Then, go to the gas station and fill the tank and repeat the test. It should have the resistance that correlates to full.
Some cars when you pull the connector off the sending unit puts the gauge to either full or empty. So a broken or corroded wire could also be the cause. If you really understand electronics, you could pull the connectors off the fuel sending unit and put resistors of known values across the wires and see if the fuel gauge reads correctly. If it does, the sending unit is most likely bad. Now days, many gauges are driven by the computer based on inputs from sensors, so things can be more complicated. If you have a good code reader scan tool, it can most likely tell you what it thinks the fuel level is (which is probably 100% so not helping you much).
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It took me three times pushing my motorcycle to the nearest gas station to stop relying on that "reserve". For some things, I'm a slow learner.
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Not technical but correction of several issues on automobile displays has happened by tapping the display or hitting it somewhat harder than a tap. Dust or debris on the display under the dash, I guess, even though most of that is sealed.
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