CULater wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 12:06 pm
smitcat wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 10:58 am
CULater wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 10:41 am
JPH wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 10:10 am
CULater, I'm following your updates and hope you will keep them coming. Ignore the noise.
Thanks. For the most part, I just want to keep this issue visible both for the fact that I feel Honda is getting away with stiffing its customers and hopefully will be helpful to a person or two in making a decision about buying this vehicle. I have to say that it amazes me that nothing seems to have happened given the hundreds of complaints filed about this engine. I plan to take my latest oil analysis report to the dealer service department and speak to the service manager, but I know it won't accomplish a thing.
My goal is a least to get them to put down in writing on the service report that they have checked the vehicle and in their opinion it is "normal" so I can document their dishonesty. I don't really expect anything will be resolved with this vehicle during the time I still own it. Consumer Reports published an article on the issue which seems to have prompted Honda to issue the so-called software "fix." But there has never been any followup from them or anyone else I'm aware of, and CR lists the CRV as one of their recommended choices for small SUVs. I hope this doesn't evolve into a gigantic recall headache for Honda at some point - not for them but for all the suckers (e, customers) who have bought one and are still buying them.
"I have to say that it amazes me that nothing seems to have happened given the hundreds of complaints filed about this engine"
Do the hundreds of complaints include any that affect the starting, operation or failures of these engines?
Or are the hundreds of complaints limited to the oil level rising?
You really ought to spend a little time researching this on your own -- which if you actually owned one of these things I'm sure you would do. You'd think that there's been enough information posted on this thread that you wouldn't need to ask the question. But, just to reiterate, there are numerous complaints such as the following:
- The check engine light comes on.
- Reports indicate the problem creates a stinky, gas-fumed cabin that’s so bad owners feel nauseous and dizzy while driving.
- Little or no heat being produced from the heater in cold weather.
- In certain cases owners have said their engines have mis-fired or stalled once the oil becomes diluted.
There are 295 NHTSA complaints on the 2017 CRV listed on Carcomplaints.com, many of which describe engine failure and engine stalling while driving, such as these:
One day as I was driving, all problem lights on my dashboard began to turn on, chime, and and giving messages such as "tire pressure monitoring poblem", brake system, break hold system, power steering, etc..." and my features such as cruise control and break hold became disabled. We had the spark plugs changed and the problem continued. We did an oil change and discovered that there was over 5 quarts of oil collected when only 3.5 had been pured in, also the oil was smelling like gasoline. We started researching and it seems that this is a problem with this car/model. Mechanic diagnosed lower compression on cylinder #4 and kept getting a cylinder #4 error.
While driving my '17 Honda CR-V ex, it suddenly sputtered, started losing power & wouldn't let me accelerate over 10mph. Malfunction indicator started blinking. I was in 4 lanes of traffic with no place to pull over. I put flashers on & cars drove around me. I got to a side St & the manual said if indicator is blinking, it's a misfire in engine's cylinders & to wait for engine to cool down. I sat for 40 mins & made it back home close by & called Honda roadside assistance who towed it to Honda new rochelle. I can't remember being that frightened driving. When bob from Honda nr called he said my car has too much oil, above top of dipstick & it's the fault of the person who changed the oil (on Oct. 30, 5 wks earlier).
he Consumer Reports article cites the following based on their research on 2017 and 2018 models:
If you have a 2017 or 2018 Honda CR-V with a 1.5 turbo engine, watch for the warning signs of this oil-fuel problem. Most important, check the oil frequently to see whether the level seems high, something almost everyone we talked with said they noticed. Also watch for other signs, including stalling, loss of power, a smell of gas in the passenger compartment, and heaters that don’t work well or at all in cold weather.
As well, please refer to the Honda TSB 18-147 issued in February which was updated from the previous TSB on the oil dilution issue to include inspection and possible replacement of the cams due to abnormal wear. Honda must be aware that this is occurring in some vehicles affected by oil dilution and insufficient lubrication or it wouldn't be included. But, how long does it take for the cams and rocker arms to fail and trash the engine? Don't know but the longer the own one of these things the more likely you'll find out. And will you have any idea what caused it? Well, I can guarantee that your friendly Honda dealer won't be talking while you are forking out a few thou for an engine replacement.
"You really ought to spend a little time researching this on your own -- which if you actually owned one of these things I'm sure you would do."
I have 3 CRV's now - none with the 1.5 engine. We have an old friend that works at a Honda dealer that we buy them from. He see's no issue so far with all the ones that they sell and service- he is not ownership just a friend that is very aware of Honda facts.
"- Little or no heat being produced from the heater in cold weather."
Unelated to the fuel dilution issue and has a speared TSB for service for those affected.
"While driving my '17 Honda CR-V ex, it suddenly sputtered, started losing power & wouldn't let me accelerate over 10mph. Malfunction indicator started blinking. I was in 4 lanes of traffic with no place to pull over. I put flashers on & cars drove around me. I got to a side St & the manual said if indicator is blinking, it's a misfire in engine's cylinders & to wait for engine to cool down. I sat for 40 mins & made it back home close by & called Honda roadside assistance who towed it to Honda new rochelle. I can't remember being that frightened driving. When bob from Honda nr called he said my car has too much oil, above top of dipstick & it's the fault of the person who changed the oil (on Oct. 30, 5 wks earlier)."
I would not tolerate a known safety issue for anything in the world ...my thoughts and actioNS would be these:
If you believe Bob then check your oil level after oil changes and per the manual.
So , has it happened since? Did you find the oil changes to be excessively filled? etc
What i would do - if you do not believe Bob then trade the CRV in for another comparable used vehicle that you like.
"As well, please refer to the Honda TSB 18-147 issued in February which was updated from the previous TSB on the oil dilution issue to include inspection and possible replacement of the cams due to abnormal wear."
Does not sound like an issue that is any different than the thousands of TSB's out there for many vehicles. Has your engine had any cam shaft wear or symptoms of such?
"Don't know but the longer the own one of these things the more likely you'll find out."
Potential solution was posted above - trade the vehicle in for a similar used CPO vehicle of your choice and preference.
Or ...alternately , be unhappy with your current potentially unsafe to you CRV.
But it would be good to realize that there are more than 1.25 million CRV's sold since 2016 and they are selling more each month.
Your observations of complaints of a few hundred are not statistically significant in comparison to most vehicle issues.
And one more time - if it was me I would have sold/traded it already.
Although I did have 4 outboard motors which had the exact same issue and they ran fine for 1.000's of hours until we sold them.