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I see this response often here, 'just search the forum'.
But that response is overlooking what, I think, is one of the primary reasons people use this forum... interaction with others.
Also, if I'm asking a question, I'd like to know what people are thinking right now, not what they may have been thinking a year ago, or longer.
Am I wrong about this? Isn't one of the big reasons people ask questions on a forum is the interaction with others, as opposed to a static answer provided by Google?
But that response is overlooking what, I think, is one of the primary reasons people use this forum... interaction with others.
Also, if I'm asking a question, I'd like to know what people are thinking right now, not what they may have been thinking a year ago, or longer.
Am I wrong about this? Isn't one of the big reasons people ask questions on a forum is the interaction with others, as opposed to a static answer provided by Google?
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Yes, in before lock. Much of the information is somewhat timeless. People should always search before posting.
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google may not give the kinds of in depth answers that are given on this forum.
you're assuming answers from a year ago are no longer valid or are stale.
I don't think that's generally or often true but this may depend upon the question asked.
often the same type of question (market timing as one example) is asked repeatedly.
the answer to those types of questions don't change and I see no reason why people should have to say the same thing again and again, especially when a simple search will yield the answers you seek, whether you act on them or not.
when I have a general question to ask I assume it's been asked before and seek out answers to learn as much as I can.
when I still have knowledge gaps after doing my research or those other questions are slightly different than what I'm asking I will post explaining how my question is different from what I've already read.
If you're asking whether to buy Tesla today, that may (or not) be different from someone who asked whether to buy Tesla a year ago.
So the type of question is what matters. And when people say "just search the forum" I assume it's because they already answered that question before (perhaps even numerous times. I know I have) and don't really want to have to answer it again.
Often I will post a google search to the poster's question that shows them if they had just searched google they would see their question's been asked too many times to count.
perhaps people don't want to do the research to read through numerous past posts.
sometimes people just want quick answers or be told what to do rather than researching, reading, learning on their own.
i understand people are busy and may not want to spend ("waste"?) time researching when someone can just answer their question even though it's been answered several times before.
and yes, dialogue can be important especially to help people think about things they haven't before or think of them in different ways. There was a question a few days ago that the poster had assumed was the correct way of thinking of things, but then others chimed in and gave valid points that were counter to the OP's way of thinking. I found that refreshing and it's why I come here. We all have biases and it is helpful to check (or be checked) those biases from others provided we are able and willing to look at things a different way.
you're assuming answers from a year ago are no longer valid or are stale.
I don't think that's generally or often true but this may depend upon the question asked.
often the same type of question (market timing as one example) is asked repeatedly.
the answer to those types of questions don't change and I see no reason why people should have to say the same thing again and again, especially when a simple search will yield the answers you seek, whether you act on them or not.
when I have a general question to ask I assume it's been asked before and seek out answers to learn as much as I can.
when I still have knowledge gaps after doing my research or those other questions are slightly different than what I'm asking I will post explaining how my question is different from what I've already read.
If you're asking whether to buy Tesla today, that may (or not) be different from someone who asked whether to buy Tesla a year ago.
So the type of question is what matters. And when people say "just search the forum" I assume it's because they already answered that question before (perhaps even numerous times. I know I have) and don't really want to have to answer it again.
Often I will post a google search to the poster's question that shows them if they had just searched google they would see their question's been asked too many times to count.
perhaps people don't want to do the research to read through numerous past posts.
sometimes people just want quick answers or be told what to do rather than researching, reading, learning on their own.
i understand people are busy and may not want to spend ("waste"?) time researching when someone can just answer their question even though it's been answered several times before.
and yes, dialogue can be important especially to help people think about things they haven't before or think of them in different ways. There was a question a few days ago that the poster had assumed was the correct way of thinking of things, but then others chimed in and gave valid points that were counter to the OP's way of thinking. I found that refreshing and it's why I come here. We all have biases and it is helpful to check (or be checked) those biases from others provided we are able and willing to look at things a different way.
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My observation is that it depends on the quality of the question.investingdad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:54 pm I see this response often here, 'just search the forum'.
But that response is overlooking what, I think, is one of the primary reasons people use this forum... interaction with others.
Also, if I'm asking a question, I'd like to know what people are thinking right now, not what they may have been thinking a year ago, or longer.
Am I wrong about this? Isn't one of the big reasons people ask questions on a forum is the interaction with others, as opposed to a static answer provided by Google?
If someone asks “so how much international should I have????”, with little other info, you’re going to get a collective groan.
If you post a lot of details about your specific situation, and ask a more specific question about your international allocation in context of the rest of your portfolio, you’ll likely get very different answers.
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Post here, to get the most current information on a topic, and to get interaction with others.
AND search the Forum, as it will probably give greater depth and color on commonly-discussed topics.
AND search the Forum, as it will probably give greater depth and color on commonly-discussed topics.
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This thread has been moved to the Forum Issues and Administration forum (forum help).
In the top-right corner of the page, there are actually 2 searches.
1. The search box with the magnifying glass icon. This goes to google as "(search term) site: bogleheads.org".
2. The "gear" icon to the right of the google search box. This is the forum's built-in search engine. Use this engine to get focused forum search results - member posts, titles, selected forums.
Tip: Enter 0 for the "Return first:" characters to see the entire post - which will include quoted posts.
In the top-right corner of the page, there are actually 2 searches.
1. The search box with the magnifying glass icon. This goes to google as "(search term) site: bogleheads.org".
2. The "gear" icon to the right of the google search box. This is the forum's built-in search engine. Use this engine to get focused forum search results - member posts, titles, selected forums.
Tip: Enter 0 for the "Return first:" characters to see the entire post - which will include quoted posts.
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A few off-topic posts have been removed. See: General Etiquette
We expect this forum to be a place where people can feel comfortable asking questions and where debates and discussions are conducted in civil tones.
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There are lots of wonderful discussions on the forum and I think all of us are better served by engaging with those discussions rather than trying to recreate them every 6-12 months.
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If poster is asking a FAQ at least include a couple links to past postings so all know you have done some homework.
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It might be improved etiquette if a question was prefaced by ....
"I searched the forum along with IRS.gov, and found ..., but I still have some questions ...."
That is, show some effort to indicate one's interest and how important the responses might be to one.
Besides, becoming adept at using internet search tools is an important skill for our times when one has to do their own fact-checking.
"I searched the forum along with IRS.gov, and found ..., but I still have some questions ...."
That is, show some effort to indicate one's interest and how important the responses might be to one.
Besides, becoming adept at using internet search tools is an important skill for our times when one has to do their own fact-checking.
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I agree that it can be rather rude to dismiss someones post and simply instruct the OP to search the forum.
Maybe I have not been around as long as most and have not yet tired of the repetitive posts.
The only two posts that I have grown tired of are the sky is falling posts when the market drops, and of course the market is overvalued posts when we reach new highs.
Maybe I have not been around as long as most and have not yet tired of the repetitive posts.
The only two posts that I have grown tired of are the sky is falling posts when the market drops, and of course the market is overvalued posts when we reach new highs.
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The mobile site is missing the Google search, which is a handy shortcut, though I can of course type “site:bogleheads.org” myself.
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and you can get the most recent posts by limiting the time.
site:boglehead.org after:2019 iphone
Gets me all posts made this year that have "iPhone"
Don't trust me, look it up. https://www.irs.gov/forms-instructions-and-publications
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If "Just search the forum" is the entire reply, then that's inadequate. I've never seen such a reply, but then I've hardly seen everything on the forum. But if the reply is to suggest you search for something pertinent and specific to your post, such as a book or blog, then not only is that correct, it also amounts to interaction. It may not be the interaction you're looking for, but it is interaction.
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There are occasional times when it is a 2 or 3 word phrase (noun with necessary adjective, etc.)...
... but both/all words are very common, and the number of results is overwhelming.
That can happen with even a single word, if it's common enough, so there are sooooo many posts that pop up.
It's also not always that easy to think just which word should be searched, and this could especially be the case when someone is not really familiar with the topic.
And then, much of the time, a search here on BH is easy and helpful.
RM
... but both/all words are very common, and the number of results is overwhelming.
That can happen with even a single word, if it's common enough, so there are sooooo many posts that pop up.
It's also not always that easy to think just which word should be searched, and this could especially be the case when someone is not really familiar with the topic.
And then, much of the time, a search here on BH is easy and helpful.
RM
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There really doesn’t need to be another thread for “should I pay off my mortgage?”
Ever.
It’s been asked, answered, debated, and beaten to death. Please, for the love of all that is holy, enough.
Ever.
It’s been asked, answered, debated, and beaten to death. Please, for the love of all that is holy, enough.
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Making decisions with your own money can rattle new investors. A member might want confidence they are doing the right thing. Or, they may still be unsure and want a second opinion. In any case, we should answer their questions.
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Hi. How do you start a new topic? I can't seem to find where to login or start a new thread on any page. Thanks so much.
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Yep, it is hidden if one uses www.bogleheads.org to read the forum. But at the top click on "Board Index" and take a look at what happens. Does that help?
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I am sure there are simpler ways but I start at index.php and select a topic to post. Login required to post though.Hi. How do you start a new topic? I can't seem to find where to login or start a new thread on any page. Thanks so much.
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Thanks for the rapid-replies. I just signed in through Google & that worked.
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Re: Just search the forum...
To clarify, you found the forum via a Google search and then logged in with a username / password.