Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
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One problem I have with "Like" is that it alone is meaningless except to the poster, the only one who knows what he/she means by "like." Not even recipients of a "like" can be certain why someone likes what they wrote. It's also possible that the "like" poster misunderstood what he read and his reasons for liking are based on that misunderstanding. "Like" also can assume that others understsnd what it means and are in agreement with the poster when they may not be. "Like" is no substitute for a well thought out and expressed reply.
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Sorry.... but get with the times. It's 2021.
The arguments against "like" or "+/- 1" don't make sense at all. You're basically telling readers we're dumb for liking/disliking something. That's quite frankly pretty insulting. Have some faith in the readership and the readership is perfectly capable of ignoring +/- ratings. I like sorting megathreads by +/- ratings to save time and get maximum quality. I can't read everything in every thread.
Sorry.... but get with the times. It's 2021.
The arguments against "like" or "+/- 1" don't make sense at all. You're basically telling readers we're dumb for liking/disliking something. That's quite frankly pretty insulting. Have some faith in the readership and the readership is perfectly capable of ignoring +/- ratings. I like sorting megathreads by +/- ratings to save time and get maximum quality. I can't read everything in every thread.
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Great post, Fallible. Captures the essence perfectly. If one has something pertinent to add to a particular message thread; or has a question, then take the time to say/ask it. A "drive by" poster doing a quick hit won't add anything to the thread.Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
Unread post by Fallible » Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:00 pm
One problem I have with "Like" is that it alone is meaningless except to the poster, the only one who knows what he/she means by "like." Not even recipients of a "like" can be certain why someone likes what they wrote. It's also possible that the "like" poster misunderstood what he read and his reasons for liking are based on that misunderstanding. "Like" also can assume that others understand what it means and are in agreement with the poster when they may not be. "Like" is no substitute for a well thought out and expressed reply.
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As noted above by LadyGeek, the forum owners have stated that this is not a feature they wish implemented; see this post from forum owner Alex Frakt.jmw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:06 pm +1
Sorry.... but get with the times. It's 2021.
The arguments against "like" or "+/- 1" don't make sense at all. You're basically telling readers we're dumb for liking/disliking something. That's quite frankly pretty insulting. Have some faith in the readership and the readership is perfectly capable of ignoring +/- ratings. I like sorting megathreads by +/- ratings to save time and get maximum quality. I can't read everything in every thread.
Alex Frakt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:16 pm It's not going to happen here. I participate in many forums that allow different forms of voting and there are two issues that can not be overcome. The first is that these things are too easily gamed. It's quite common for certain posters or topics to get automatic up or downvotes, regardless of the quality of a particular post. Worse, it also changes the character of the conversation as posters start pandering for up-votes or avoiding posting after a downvote. For most posters, this happens subconsciously, but it absolutely does happen.
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Please do NOT add a "like" button. Better yet, delete this thread.
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Thankfully /r/Bogleheads has all the reddit features, and is growing all the time (up to 37k subscribers).
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+1 on original post. I fully understand the rights of the owners to do whatever they please. But it's no longer 2013. Lots of things have changed. Maybe some day the folks running this forum may change their mind on this issue. For me personally, I find Bogleheads the SECOND most useful forum on the internet. The FIRST by a huge margin, despite some faults, is Stack Overflow. And, horror of horrors, it has an extremely useful up and down voting system.oldcomputerguy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:26 pmAs noted above by LadyGeek, the forum owners have stated that this is not a feature they wish implemented; see this post from forum owner Alex Frakt.jmw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:06 pm +1
Sorry.... but get with the times. It's 2021.
The arguments against "like" or "+/- 1" don't make sense at all. You're basically telling readers we're dumb for liking/disliking something. That's quite frankly pretty insulting. Have some faith in the readership and the readership is perfectly capable of ignoring +/- ratings. I like sorting megathreads by +/- ratings to save time and get maximum quality. I can't read everything in every thread.
Alex Frakt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:16 pm It's not going to happen here. I participate in many forums that allow different forms of voting and there are two issues that can not be overcome. The first is that these things are too easily gamed. It's quite common for certain posters or topics to get automatic up or downvotes, regardless of the quality of a particular post. Worse, it also changes the character of the conversation as posters start pandering for up-votes or avoiding posting after a downvote. For most posters, this happens subconsciously, but it absolutely does happen.
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Thanks! I didn't know that subreddit existed.zaboomafoozarg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:37 pmThankfully /r/Bogleheads has all the reddit features, and is growing all the time (up to 37k subscribers).
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+1Alex Frakt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:16 pm It's not going to happen here. I participate in many forums that allow different forms of voting and there are two issues that can not be overcome. The first is that these things are too easily gamed. It's quite common for certain posters or topics to get automatic up or downvotes, regardless of the quality of a particular post. Worse, it also changes the character of the conversation as posters start pandering for up-votes or avoiding posting after a downvote. For most posters, this happens subconsciously, but it absolutely does happen.
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Please no "like" button...
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+1Fallible wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:00 pm One problem I have with "Like" is that it alone is meaningless except to the poster, the only one who knows what he/she means by "like." Not even recipients of a "like" can be certain why someone likes what they wrote. It's also possible that the "like" poster misunderstood what he read and his reasons for liking are based on that misunderstanding. "Like" also can assume that others understsnd what it means and are in agreement with the poster when they may not be. "Like" is no substitute for a well thought out and expressed reply.
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Agreed. Add a "delete" or "answered & lock it" button accessible only to OP. Perhaps that could end some of the never-ending 1-on-1 conversations.sixtyforty wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:52 am Please do NOT add a "like" button. Better yet, delete this thread.
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A perfect definitive answer and final judgement on "liking" vs "shunning".oldcomputerguy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:26 pm
........ the forum owners have stated that this is not a feature they wish implemented; see this post from forum owner Alex Frakt.
Alex Frakt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:16 pm It's not going to happen here. I participate in many forums that allow different forms of voting and there are two issues that can not be overcome.
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The first is that these things are too easily gamed. It's quite common for certain posters or topics to get automatic up or downvotes, regardless of the quality of a particular post.
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Worse, it also changes the character of the conversation as posters start pandering for up-votes or avoiding posting after a downvote. For most posters, this happens subconsciously, but it absolutely does happen.
Posts should remain 100% on topic, actionable, and "focused on the OP"' to benefit the OP, and the larger masses as well.
"Not Liking" implies "shunning". . there shall be no "shunning".
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These are already functions available to moderators. As stated in forum policy, "If you feel that someone has attacked you or otherwise violated the policies of this forum, do not respond in kind. Instead, please click the report button on the offending post. This is the quickest method to notify the site moderators."BroIceCream wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:54 pmAgreed. Add a "delete" or "answered & lock it" button accessible only to OP. Perhaps that could end some of the never-ending 1-on-1 conversations.sixtyforty wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:52 am Please do NOT add a "like" button. Better yet, delete this thread.
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I totally agree with Alex. While there are definitely positives for having a like functionality, IMHO the negatives greatly outweigh the positives. It tends to drive people towards common and conformative(??) thinking but also is a reflection of popularity. I participate in a political sub forum elsewhere and recently I saw one poster of persuasion A post something and got several likes, and another poster of the minority persuasions get dislikes 3 posts later for saying almost the same thing.Elric wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:26 pm+1 on original post. I fully understand the rights of the owners to do whatever they please. But it's no longer 2013. Lots of things have changed. Maybe some day the folks running this forum may change their mind on this issue. For me personally, I find Bogleheads the SECOND most useful forum on the internet. The FIRST by a huge margin, despite some faults, is Stack Overflow. And, horror of horrors, it has an extremely useful up and down voting system.oldcomputerguy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:26 pmAs noted above by LadyGeek, the forum owners have stated that this is not a feature they wish implemented; see this post from forum owner Alex Frakt.jmw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:06 pm +1
Sorry.... but get with the times. It's 2021.
The arguments against "like" or "+/- 1" don't make sense at all. You're basically telling readers we're dumb for liking/disliking something. That's quite frankly pretty insulting. Have some faith in the readership and the readership is perfectly capable of ignoring +/- ratings. I like sorting megathreads by +/- ratings to save time and get maximum quality. I can't read everything in every thread.
Alex Frakt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:16 pm It's not going to happen here. I participate in many forums that allow different forms of voting and there are two issues that can not be overcome. The first is that these things are too easily gamed. It's quite common for certain posters or topics to get automatic up or downvotes, regardless of the quality of a particular post. Worse, it also changes the character of the conversation as posters start pandering for up-votes or avoiding posting after a downvote. For most posters, this happens subconsciously, but it absolutely does happen.
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What I'd really like to see is an upvote system for funniest posts or funniest replies... or we nominate posts for how hard we laughed and there's some central place that links to all of them
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I don't particularly associate a financial forum with comedy, but if you're really wanting to do this, you could PM the moderators for permission to start a "Best of Bogleheads" style thread in the Local Chapters/Community forum.
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There's no need - the moderators read these threads.
Let's stay focused on the primary focus of this forum - investing and personal finance. We have a few "best of" related threads in the US Local Chapters/Community forum:
- Best Threads on Bogleheads, which covers "intriguing, informational or entertaining"
- [favorite] Boglehead quotes
Feel free to add to those discussions.
Let's stay focused on the primary focus of this forum - investing and personal finance. We have a few "best of" related threads in the US Local Chapters/Community forum:
- Best Threads on Bogleheads, which covers "intriguing, informational or entertaining"
- [favorite] Boglehead quotes
Feel free to add to those discussions.
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Ah so it already exists I could've USED THE SEARCH BAR. Thanks mod!LadyGeek wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:40 pm There's no need - the moderators read these threads.
Let's stay focused on the primary focus of this forum - investing and personal finance. We have a few "best of" related threads in the US Local Chapters/Community forum:
- Best Threads on Bogleheads, which covers "intriguing, informational or entertaining"
- [favorite] Boglehead quotes
Feel free to add to those discussions.
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Look at what comments get the most “likes” on Reddit and see if you still think that’s a good idea. Its great if you want sucide by terrible puns. Otherwise please mods, never do this!
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Thanks! 175k members nowzaboomafoozarg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:37 pmThankfully /r/Bogleheads has all the reddit features, and is growing all the time (up to 37k subscribers).
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I know this is an old message, but I disagree with this.jmw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:06 pm +1
Sorry.... but get with the times. It's 2021.
The arguments against "like" or "+/- 1" don't make sense at all. You're basically telling readers we're dumb for liking/disliking something. That's quite frankly pretty insulting. Have some faith in the readership and the readership is perfectly capable of ignoring +/- ratings. I like sorting megathreads by +/- ratings to save time and get maximum quality. I can't read everything in every thread.
When you sort by ratings on Reddit, you're getting maximum popularity, not quality. Typically, that means you're getting:
- Messages that adhere to groupthink and don't challenge people
- Short, pithy, easy-to-read jokes
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
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Ramjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
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I grew up with feature-rich websites. I don't come here for features. I come here for information, to learn, and to interact and maybe provide some advice. I'd take a smaller community of thoughtful contributors over the cesspool of noise that dominates the rest of the internet any day. Hopefully the owners and moderators hold the line. Just one anecdote...
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DislikeRamjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
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I recall when polls were an option!
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increasingly it seems like some of the feature-rich web sites break down with my Brave browser - so many of them are running scripts and videos that it seems to gag; so I often move along to something else. I don't need to see a picture of Jerome Powell in an article about the FED; I know what he looks like and, frankly, don't really care.Corvidae wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:25 pmI grew up with feature-rich websites. I don't come here for features. I come here for information, to learn, and to interact and maybe provide some advice. I'd take a smaller community of thoughtful contributors over the cesspool of noise that dominates the rest of the internet any day. Hopefully the owners and moderators hold the line. Just one anecdote...
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Ageist much? Gimme a break.Ramjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
While I understand the sentiment, I hope new people realize why the forum is simple and maintainable. There are no advertisements or user data selling. Its daily visitors is very high for a free, no-add site. The burden is onerous on site owners and moderators. Yet it is maintained and a lot of people get advise on a daily basis. The primary goal and mission of this site continues. Even if we were to have a stylish website, there is no grantee we can attract more than current people. What we preach is plain vanilla compared to sites/schemes that talk about 20%+ returns. Some wise folk will realize early, while others after burning a few savings. Some may never reach the conclusion of fellow bogleheads. As I age, I realized quality triumphs quantity.Ramjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
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+1JoeRetire wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:23 pmRamjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
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Personally, I don't like all the gamification of so many sites.David Jay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:57 pm+1JoeRetire wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:23 pmRamjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
I also want to say "good lord, NO" to the idea of adding a 'like' button here on Bogleheads. The introduction of likes instantly changes many people's motivation in posting, skewing them to word their posts in favor of getting the most 'likes' or otherwise gamifying their post, wording it in such a way that people feel compelled to read beyond its stated subject. It clouds the information and adds noise.
I come here precisely because this site is so bare bones and to-the-point, well-moderated and generally all about quality over quantity. I'm glad some folks find it difficult to add images, that we don't have polls all over the place and all that. Long may it continue, and I'm gonna go put my money where my mouth is and make a donation.
I come here precisely because this site is so bare bones and to-the-point, well-moderated and generally all about quality over quantity. I'm glad some folks find it difficult to add images, that we don't have polls all over the place and all that. Long may it continue, and I'm gonna go put my money where my mouth is and make a donation.
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Worrying about what the Bogleheads Nation looks like in 30 or 50 years is not high on my list of daily activities.Ramjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
Maybe in the future, people will humble their egos, or maybe have a social backlash to the psychologically manipulative aspects of "like" buttons.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
The users on this site are on the older, older side. Likes, tags, anything not there since the invent of forums will likely be frowned on.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
+1gkaplan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:13 pmJust use part of the quote and use ellipses for the missing test.Similar to Facebook, why not add a "like" button feature to posters comments? I often see posts that I want to express my "likeness" for, but don't want to quote the whole post just to say "great post!". Just a thought.
(Count me as one not wanting a "like" button. This is an investing forum, not a social forum.)
Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
Agree with you. Just responding to remind everyone that people can use the "Amazon" button which provides a small referral fee to the Bogleheads' forum for purchases made via this route. It would have been more timely if I had posted this message prior to Amazon Days.ray.james wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:50 pmWhile I understand the sentiment, I hope new people realize why the forum is simple and maintainable. There are no advertisements or user data selling. Its daily visitors is very high for a free, no-add site. The burden is onerous on site owners and moderators. Yet it is maintained and a lot of people get advise on a daily basis. The primary goal and mission of this site continues. Even if we were to have a stylish website, there is no grantee we can attract more than current people. What we preach is plain vanilla compared to sites/schemes that talk about 20%+ returns. Some wise folk will realize early, while others after burning a few savings. Some may never reach the conclusion of fellow bogleheads. As I age, I realized quality triumphs quantity.Ramjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
ray.james, nice post about the forum's strengths being based on simplicity and maintainability. Ultimately, of course, its greatest strength is Jack Bogle.ray.james wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:50 pmWhile I understand the sentiment, I hope new people realize why the forum is simple and maintainable. There are no advertisements or user data selling. Its daily visitors is very high for a free, no-add site. The burden is onerous on site owners and moderators. Yet it is maintained and a lot of people get advise on a daily basis. The primary goal and mission of this site continues. Even if we were to have a stylish website, there is no grantee we can attract more than current people. What we preach is plain vanilla compared to sites/schemes that talk about 20%+ returns. Some wise folk will realize early, while others after burning a few savings. Some may never reach the conclusion of fellow bogleheads. As I age, I realized quality triumphs quantity.Ramjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
Ramjet, where is the fact-producing research that leads you to conclude there is an "older demographic"? Without such facts, your premise is based, in your words, on what "seems" to be and what that demographic "probably" cares about.
"Yes, investing is simple. But it is not easy, for it requires discipline, patience, steadfastness, and that most uncommon of all gifts, common sense." ~Jack Bogle
Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
Impossible without re-enabling the poll feature lolFallible wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:53 pmray.james, nice post about the forum's strengths being based on simplicity and maintainability. Ultimately, of course, its greatest strength is Jack Bogle.ray.james wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:50 pmWhile I understand the sentiment, I hope new people realize why the forum is simple and maintainable. There are no advertisements or user data selling. Its daily visitors is very high for a free, no-add site. The burden is onerous on site owners and moderators. Yet it is maintained and a lot of people get advise on a daily basis. The primary goal and mission of this site continues. Even if we were to have a stylish website, there is no grantee we can attract more than current people. What we preach is plain vanilla compared to sites/schemes that talk about 20%+ returns. Some wise folk will realize early, while others after burning a few savings. Some may never reach the conclusion of fellow bogleheads. As I age, I realized quality triumphs quantity.Ramjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term
Ramjet, where is the fact-producing research that leads you to conclude there is an "older demographic"? Without such facts, your premise is based, in your words, on what "seems" to be and what that demographic "probably" cares about.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
+1.Stinky wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:28 amWorrying about what the Bogleheads Nation looks like in 30 or 50 years is not high on my list of daily activities.Ramjet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:15 pm Bogleheads has a lot of registered users. Of those users, the people that post the most seem to be on the older side. The older demographic probably cares the least about the websites user interface than anyone. What happens when these posters are no longer around? I guess we will see but who will be left will be people who grew up with the internet. These people not only grew up with feature rich websites, they like those features. Bogleheads has banned polls, it is a pain to upload images, it is a pain to upload a simple avatar due to sizing, there is no like button, there is no dislike button, limited emoji's, no GIFS, topics constantly being banned (that are popular with young people mind you), extremely heavy moderator intervention in threads. There is some great content on Bogleheads, but I don't think Bogleheads is doing itself any favors in setting itself up for the long term