madbrain wrote: ↑Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:26 pm
ResearchMed wrote: ↑Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:17 pm
We aren't familiar with Hawaiian Airlines program or their MasterCard (yet!), but can you keep the points/account active by using the charge card?
That works for both of the major programs we use, so the points can just sit there (or increase, due to the ongoing spending).
(Someone who helps us with the F awards ticketing pointed out that the Hawaii program might be useful to us in terms of transferring points, so we are going to look into it a bit more.)
You can keep the miles from expiring by charging to the card, yes, as it will earn miles and reset the expiration clock. However, the Barclay Hawaiian card has an $89 annual fee. It was waived for the first year for our offer last year. I cancelled the card shortly thereafter. I have another 6 months to use my miles, or find a way to make a transaction. Looks like Magsformiles works for Hawaiian, so I may just end up using that as I have done in the past for other mileage programs with expiration dates. I just hate the wasted printed magazines that I don't have enough time to read. Guess I could just cancel them even though there is no refund on subscriptions paid with miles.
For my husband's account, he made a small purchase in the 12th month to earn 5 miles, which reset the expiration to 18 months on all his miles.
The $89 gets you OK benefits including travel insurance, but those were duplicate with our other AF cards (mainly CSR & BofA premium rewards at this point), sot there was no point in keeping these cards. The Barclay cards are just not competitive to keep in the long run, IMO, in terms of benefits vs annual fee. But they are good to churn.
Let me know what you find in terms of transfer options for Hawaiian.
About the transfer options for Hawaiian points... I do need to double check the specifics, but it was for an international F service, something we wanted to give a try. And it might be one of those "Transfer Airline A to Airline B's program, and then from B's site [or sometimes, call], ticket on Airline C".
This is why we sometimes get help.
We barely have our learner's permit for some of this.
We've been "sampling" several international F services, so we know what works best for us in the future, as we not only continue our much-belated serious vacation travel, but start increasing it considerably. Sooner or later, we'll automatically be "sampling" assorted business classes as well, when we run out of luck securing the F seats, or on on routes where there aren't actual F seats.
And of course, the best "value" for those awards tends to be in premium international.
This now works especially well for us, as we had already decided that for long-haul flights, we would indeed pay
for business class, or... just not go. When we were younger, "coach" was quite fine, although we never traveled ultra-long-haul, so we can't say for sure about that "back then".
And the "extra cost" of the difference in points for First is relatively minimal (for us now, not back in the day, etc.), hence our F travel, or attempts to do so...
(There are some not-ultra-long-haul when the points vs. cash doesn't make as much sense, and for those, we'll pay cash for business or even First. We are about to arrange that for a trip next year. Some of those F tix to Asia would have cost so much if paid in cash, that there's not a chance in the world we'd have done that. Zero chance.)
Yeah, if there's a fee, and you'd just be sitting on the awards and adding minimal amounts, then that makes less sense.
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