Valuethinker wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:57 am
Range is about 100 miles less? Somewhere around 225 miles?
I agree in that my friends, the sorts of people who want an EV, can pay the extra cost, but don't want a Tesla due to Musk & brand image (plus concerns re build quality), are going for Ioniq 5s (this is in North America). 2 of them went for one in the same month (geographically, they live as far apart as you can on the North American continent East to West, and from Mediterranean climate to North Atlantic maritime climate).
There's an upgraded version which has like 30 more miles on the range but all the gizmos (including self drive features - like many here, I think some levels of AV are a trap, because they work to diminish driver attention & awareness). But it's a lot more ($15k more?)
Stated range, using whatever standard you might use (EPA (US), WLTP (Europe), or the Korean standard) can vary, more or less, from real world range. The EPA allows two different ways to measure (2 tests or 4 tests) and only Tesla uses the 2 test method. Perhaps as a consequence, they usually fall short of their stated range considerably, while other marques (Porsche, Kia/Hyundai) regularly achieve or exceed their official range.
Range becomes an issue for long trips, trips exceeding the range of the vehicle and therefore requiring a charge while enroute. These examples are then affected by the charging speed of the vehicle and in this respect the Korean twins come out ahead, capable of accepting 800v. If I have a 500 mile trip to make any EV will require a charge, Tesla or otherwise. It may be that the vehicle with the shorter range but the higher rate of charging, will win the race.
For a table comparing various models (many not available in North America) go to 22:40 in Bjorn's video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi_sChlWTRc
Here he compares the time it takes to complete a 1000km trip; the conditions vary so it is not 100% but a good starting point. His videos, by the way, are great to watch.
"Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race." H.G. Wells