I always find these anti-Microsoft/anti-upgrade posts somewhere between amusing and annoying...
chris319 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:23 am
I ran the Windows 11 compatibility checker on my Core i7 desktop machine which is not exactly an antique from the 1920's, and it said "ix-nay" to the Core i7 CPU as "unsupported". One down and one to go.
I then ran it on my AMD Ryzen laptop which is about 2 years old and it didn't like that, either, saying "unsupported CPU", so screw it. I mean, seriously?
I'll be dipped in boiling oil before I spend $2,000 upgrading my hardware just to run Windows 11 which is probably being released 2 - 3 years prematurely and will take 2 - 3 years just to exterminate some of the major bugs. I just spent $$$ upgrading the RAM on my desktop which still has plenty of life left in it.
Perfectly fine - and Microsoft is supporting Windows 10 for another
5 4 years giving you the ability to do exactly that. And if they keep Windows 11 upgrade free - unless you buy an entirely new computer [where the manufacture paid Microsoft to install Windows on the device, and even then its only a few dollars Microsoft actually gets], the money you are spending on new hardware doesn't go to Microsoft. So I always smirk when people think this is some big money grab by Microsoft to require more modern hardware...
Companies like Apple require you to purchase their hardware with no alternatives, and then often quit supporting the OS on hardware that may only be a few years old. Yet I don't hear anyone complain about them (or at least as much)... And OS support on Android is atrocious...
Ultimately, as technology evolves - newer hardware standards are required. I'd much rather be in Microsoft's open ecosystem where I have a choice of hardware from numerous manufacturers across multiple price points, and very long lifecycles to leverage those capabilities. Even if I still had to "buy" Windows - I'd happily do so to have a solid and reliable OS and support a business model that isn't built off "me being the product". (Which is not how Microsoft works [outside of Bing as mentioned below].)
chris319 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:23 am
This is a big reason not to own MSFT stock. It's not a good company, so who wants to own it? Windows 8 was a dud. I can't stand their business model of sucking up data from users' machines and selling it. Luckily I was able to turn off "telemetry" on Windows 10.
Show me a reliable source to validate this concern!
To my understanding, Microsoft has explicit policies against doing anything with the data on your devices - and in its cloud services. They expressly state they do not scan, advertise, etc. that data.
Note, that doesn't apply to Bing search engine - as all search engines - except those like Duck Duck Go - use search data to help provide tailored ads.
Yes, starting around Windows 8 Microsoft started to enable telemetry data sent back. But put this in context. Because of Microsoft's open ecosystem, there are almost infinite combinations of hardware, software, drivers, etc. found on Windows devices. The telemetry data is used (as I understand it) to help identify "real world issues" that happen on people's devices, so they can help identify the problem and improve the experience. And from my view - its worked exceedingly well. I've had far fewer crashes, driver issues, etc. on Windows since they've been doing this the last few years.
Now, if you don't want to contribute to those efforts - as you've already done - turn it off - they give you that ability...
But again let's contrast... Android and ChromeOS are sucking up every bit of data they can, feeding you recommendations for where to eat, asking you to review where you've been, etc. To my understanding - without drastically limiting the user experience - you have no way to turn these off...
Facebook sucks up tons of data - even if you aren't actively using the app/website. Again - you have no practical way to turn this off...
Again, I rarely hear people complaining about either Google or Facebook as much as Microsoft (who isn't even doing what they are accused of doing).
chris319 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:23 am
Used to be that you'd go to Fry's Electronics every couple of years and pick up a copy of the latest Windows release on CD (along with your yearly copy of Turbo Tax) and the new Windows would just install and you would update it. Those days, along with Fry's itself, are gone forever.
Sorry - the world evolves... Some good, some bad...
Many years ago "hackers" were bored kids in basements... Today there are entire criminal enterprises, businesses with "support" and everything, not to mention nation state actors that are attempting to compromise security.
That genie isn't going back in the bottle, and any improvements to help keep my device, data, and identity secure are welcomed by me...