We'll go out on the deck since the front porch is covered.
During totality, will major airports stop take-offs and landings since the momentary darkness would force them to crank up the lights and enact nighttime operational procedures?
We'll go out on the deck since the front porch is covered.
Nor does the citation of archaic scientific articles with ambiguous photosbarnaclebob wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:28 pmYou never know with some people on here saying that 95% is good enough for them when it wont really look any different than a normal day. Tone doesn't translate well over internet posts.
What area of the country are you in?nymeria.stark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:27 amOur little tourist area is already fully booked--no camping slots, no hotel rooms, no cabins, nothing, and it's been that way for six months. You can't even get a seat on a plane flying in starting probably Wednesday of this week. Our emergency responders are telling us to prepare for traffic to be at a standstill and to avoid driving if you can.Kenkat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:08 pmThere is definitely a core of people who are going to see the eclipse and planned overnight trips as to not miss it. The size of that group exceeds the room capacity within the totality zone. So there are definitely people interested. The question I think is if there is another very large group that is going to travel the day of the eclipse and what impact that will have on roads. It is a work day and a school day for many people and I just don't know many people are going to make the arrangements to go on Monday.mega317 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:32 am18 people. I am not this year because I have a little one and another on the way. But it will be about 2000 miles to see the next one.
Then why the hotel rooms booked months in advance at higher than usual rates, and the expectation of apocalyptic traffic?Based on the volume of users and traffic on this site, that doesn't feel like very many people to me.
I recognize there is a chance I could be dead wrong about this...
Most aircraft and flight crews are fully capable of night operations.
Ditto.
I consider myself to have a very curious mind, yet I don't see the "big deal" here, no live changing event for me. Now if I was an astronomer, I'm pretty sure I'd see it differently. IMO, it's massively over-hyped. But then we've become an "event" culture, and there's never enough hype for the "must see" 'really big show'. Wake me when the sun goes nova.wrongfunds wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:57 pm Even partial solar eclipse is a big deal. Things do get weird. One just feels it. The shadows take interesting shapes.
But if you do not have curious mind or hate the overhype, then it is no big deal to you. As somebody said in previous reply, we lose sun every 24 hours![]()
Just a follow up question because this also crossed my mind: it will be daytime so won't most lights be off?protagonist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:43 pm very little light pollution... ...as a city of 167K population there will be a lot of ambient light.
You may be aware of this, but just in case...sunny_socal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:02 am I'll be at work like a good boy, likely will miss the whole thing. Will leave my welding mask on the workbench so wife & kids can take a look.
Experts suggests that one widely available filter for safe solar viewing is welders glass of sufficiently high number. The only ones that are safe for direct viewing of the Sun with your eyes are those of Shade 12 or higher. These are much darker than the filters used for most kinds of welding. If you have an old welder's helmet around the house and are thinking of using it to view the Sun, make sure you know the filter's shade number. If it's less than 12 (and it probably is), don't even think about using it to look at the Sun. Many people find the Sun too bright even in a Shade 12 filter, and some find the Sun too dim in a Shade 14 filter — but Shade 13 filters are uncommon and can be hard to find.
Not in Times Square.mega317 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:44 pm Protagonist: I completely agree with your plan, that is how I think of it too.
Just a follow up question because this also crossed my mind: it will be daytime so won't most lights be off?protagonist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:43 pm very little light pollution... ...as a city of 167K population there will be a lot of ambient light.
The best night sky I've ever seen was in Eastern Oregon, probably 50 miles from the nearest gas station (I know I was counting the miles when I was low on gas and driving home from Crater Lake.) Were I going to adventure out to see a total eclipse, I'd head there but not expect much and try to annoy the locals as little as possible.protagonist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:00 pm Besides which, and perhaps even more salient, it will be a madhouse with infrastructure strained to near breaking point. It's probably a very cool place to visit on other days of the year, but for this, give me some unknown piece of isolated cactus in the Eastern Oregon desert 50 miles from the nearest gas station. That is, if you are traveling that far for the maximum eclipse experience.
Central Idaho. Our little town is right on the path of totality.
The next day I asked someone in Woodburn about the orange barrels. They said there has been repaving going on at night. My mistake.itstoomuch wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:07 pm From Woodburn to Junction City, I wonder how the authorities are going to enforce the peak ecilpse 10:00-10:30?
N.D. - thanks for the TripCheck tip. I wasn't aware of that site. I'll get up early Monday morning and take a look at it, and decide if I want to venture up Rt. 97 to the totality zone. I'll probably stay put in Bend, but anything's possible...Nearing_Destination wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:57 pm Gerry
Here in central OR, we've had the whychus fire and the current "milli" fire (still nowhere near contained and over 3000 acres earlier this morning) which has caused a bit of problem with visibility-- we are relatively clear in our location in the totality path-- but should still have enough clarity for the visitors. They are trickling in now, 97 is still passable (look at TripCheck for immediate updates), but gas levels are questionable as some stations have run out and are being rationed small amounts per day (in Redmond, Prineville, Terrebonne, and even Bend....don't know about Sisters (currently under level 1 and 2 evacuation alert from the milli fire) or Lapine).
The area around Prineville also has some sort of festival going on (with about 50000 attendees) so that doesn't help the small roads, which were at a standstill for a couple of hours yesterday.
We're hunkered down now... have fun, stay safe, and hope we don't have more fires-- we don't need any more of them.
Remember, you don't have to go all the way to Madras to experience totality. It starts in Redmond. Not as long, but maybe 30 secs is sufficient if the alternative is 99.56% of totality
Is there anything like "TripCheck" elsewhere? In particular, in Nashville?TravelGeek wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:49 amRemember, you don't have to go all the way to Madras to experience totality. It starts in Redmond. Not as long, but maybe 30 secs is sufficient if the alternative is 99.56% of totality
Lots of useful tools on the web, or try the Eclipse Safari app on Android or iOS.
Tripcheck not only provides traffic info, but also easy access to roadside webcams. Let's you see the "traffic chaos " from afar![]()
https://smartway.tn.gov/traffic/?positi ... ts,trafficResearchMed wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:52 am
Is there anything like "TripCheck" elsewhere? In particular, in Nashville?
Glorious weather here now![]()
RM
However do they measure the traffic in this detail?neilpilot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:56 amhttps://smartway.tn.gov/traffic/?positi ... ts,trafficResearchMed wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:52 am
Is there anything like "TripCheck" elsewhere? In particular, in Nashville?
Glorious weather here now![]()
RM
be sure to open the "feature menu" to select the conditions you want to view
Yes, supposed to be current traffic. I can't vouch for how current TDOT info is, especially in the weekendResearchMed wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:07 amHowever do they measure the traffic in this detail?neilpilot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:56 amhttps://smartway.tn.gov/traffic/?positi ... ts,trafficResearchMed wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:52 am
Is there anything like "TripCheck" elsewhere? In particular, in Nashville?
Glorious weather here now![]()
RM
be sure to open the "feature menu" to select the conditions you want to view
I'm looking out of a hotel window at some actual streets that are showing as "red", and everything is still quite sleepy. NO traffic.
Yet these roads are shown as red.
Even last night, when there was at least some traffic, it all still flowed nicely (at least in our big/huge city minds).
RM
I wish you a clear sky. Currently NOAA forecasts sky cover at Carbondale to be 30-40%.
Well... a Nashville street that is showing as "red" has exactly 2 cars waiting at a light. No other cars for the two blocks I can see.neilpilot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:13 amYes, supposed to be current traffic. I can't vouch for how current TDOT info is, especially in the weekendResearchMed wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:07 amHowever do they measure the traffic in this detail?neilpilot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:56 amhttps://smartway.tn.gov/traffic/?positi ... ts,trafficResearchMed wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:52 am
Is there anything like "TripCheck" elsewhere? In particular, in Nashville?
Glorious weather here now![]()
RM
be sure to open the "feature menu" to select the conditions you want to view
I'm looking out of a hotel window at some actual streets that are showing as "red", and everything is still quite sleepy. NO traffic.
Yet these roads are shown as red.
Even last night, when there was at least some traffic, it all still flowed nicely (at least in our big/huge city minds).
RM