U.S. stocks in free fall
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Maybe this is the curse of Dow 36,000, sorry I made fun of the book when we first broke that level.
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Heh, good point.
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The only thing that can save this market is a recession.
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Actually, I just verified the transaction on Schwab, 3:58pm ET, $61.50 for 2,000 shares. The market is moving quite fast near the end so don't bet on google/yahoo finance giving out accurate to the minute data.Triple digit golfer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:30 pmIf he bought at 12:58 PST, he bought at around $65 per share.
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Is it time to crank up the 401k contributions like I did in March '20 and live cheap for a few months?
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We don't need no stinkin' recession. Those suck.
How about people keep their necessary jobs that they dislike to varying degrees and the stock market just gets cheaper for awhile?
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Guessing it's a time-zone error because TDG's price would have been the case around 2:58 EST.
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Another Powell pivot incoming
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I think QT vs QE is more important.Marseille07 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:49 pmTbh if the investors don't want stocks because the Fed Fund Rate might go from 0.25% to 1.00% when inflation is at 7%, they have no business investing in the first place.
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Is there any one contributor to the negative behavior of the market right now or simply a combination of many things?
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VTI is such a drag this month, should I drop it?
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Go all in VXUS... it has to outperform someday!
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You must be looking at today’s close to get 26%. The after hours price is $100 lower.
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Jeremy Grantham Doubles Down on Crash Call, Says Selloff Has Started
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... as-started
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... as-started
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Back down to June 2018 levels, now its only up 33,500% from the IPO price.
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That's what I thought: his transaction was just before close.
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Doesn't help those poor, lost souls who took Jim Cramer's advise on January 3rd: "Netflix! BUY !"
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Small caps took a big hit recently after trading sideways for most of the year. Think it is close to a 52 week low. Time to rebalance for those with a SC tilt.
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SPX futures already -0.5%...bloodbath continues.
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My mistake. I'm in Central and was looking at 2:58 EST instead of CST.
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Its certainly going to affect opening price. Why you often see a jump up or down in open vs previous close price.Triple digit golfer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:42 pmDo after hours prices "count?"
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Yes, 100% vxus threads will be starting soon if sell off continues. Foreign corporations get US exposure they will say.
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Simplicity they will say.am wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:48 pmYes, 100% vxus threads will be starting soon if sell off continues. Foreign corporations get US exposure they will say.
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GLD is doing better.am wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:48 pmYes, 100% vxus threads will be starting soon if sell off continues. Foreign corporations get US exposure they will say.
My QQQ hit its 200 day moving average at close. I'll give it a day or two to rebound before selling off that position. This year is ugly.
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It reflects the earnings call info that the close price of 508 doesn’t, so yes I would say that those most definitely count.Triple digit golfer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:42 pmDo after hours prices "count?"
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GLD is where it was in August 2011, not including dividends : )
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According to Jim Cramer's Proprietary S&P Oscillator (tm), the market may be approaching a bottom.
Trade accordingly.
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Said another way, if you want to trade NFLX right now, the price is approximately $407 and is available to a wide range of investors to buy and sell.fanmail wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:57 pmIt reflects the earnings call info that the close price of 508 doesn’t, so yes I would say that those most definitely count.
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Looking at the 5 year and max charts for total market puts it in perspective.
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Can't wait for those threads to start popping up. The international vs US threads are getting stale recentlyam wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:48 pmYes, 100% vxus threads will be starting soon if sell off continues. Foreign corporations get US exposure they will say.
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At this point, even the 1yr chart gives a lot of perspective.AnnetteLouisan wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:06 pm Looking at the 5 year and max charts for total market puts it in perspective.
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Waiting for “Why not 100% Bonds?” threadjarjarM wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:07 pmCan't wait for those threads to start popping up. The international vs US threads are getting stale recentlyam wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:48 pmYes, 100% vxus threads will be starting soon if sell off continues. Foreign corporations get US exposure they will say.
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Isn't that the Gambler's Fallacy?
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It is.peskypesky wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:10 pmIsn't that the Gambler's Fallacy?
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The surest way to get rich investing is to do the exact opposite of what Jim Cramer says.Robot Monster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:35 pm Doesn't help those poor, lost souls who took Jim Cramer's advise on January 3rd: "Netflix! BUY !"
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Oh.... pig will rain when that happens....gonefishing01 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:10 pmWaiting for “Why not 100% Bonds?” threadjarjarM wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:07 pmCan't wait for those threads to start popping up. The international vs US threads are getting stale recentlyam wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:48 pmYes, 100% vxus threads will be starting soon if sell off continues. Foreign corporations get US exposure they will say.
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I don't think it's false, I heard it on the Internet.peskypesky wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:10 pmIsn't that the Gambler's Fallacy?
And how did you find out that I was a gambler?
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Dangerous... Everyone else who is faithfully following the 200 day moving average rule instead of waiting a day or two will sell, and probably move it downwards.rockstar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:55 pmGLD is doing better.am wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:48 pmYes, 100% vxus threads will be starting soon if sell off continues. Foreign corporations get US exposure they will say.
My QQQ hit its 200 day moving average at close. I'll give it a day or two to rebound before selling off that position. This year is ugly.
The trick is to sell BEFORE it hits 200 day moving average... Oh wait, but everyone else knows that too...
Maybe that is what is causing the drop!
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That's why we need to fine tune it to 158 day moving average
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I remember someone saying a day or so that everything is priced into the market. Lol.
Guess no one told the market.
Guess no one told the market.
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200D MA itself is fine, though I agree it can cause issues if you wait around. The whole point is to sell at-signal without delay.jarjarM wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:23 pmThat's why we need to fine tune it to 158 day moving average
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The old Princess Bride Battle of Wits!HomerJ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:21 pmDangerous... Everyone else who is faithfully following the 200 day moving average rule instead of waiting a day or two will sell, and probably move it downwards.rockstar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:55 pmGLD is doing better.am wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:48 pmYes, 100% vxus threads will be starting soon if sell off continues. Foreign corporations get US exposure they will say.
My QQQ hit its 200 day moving average at close. I'll give it a day or two to rebound before selling off that position. This year is ugly.
The trick is to sell BEFORE it hits 200 day moving average... Oh wait, but everyone else knows that too...
Maybe that is what is causing the drop!
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