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ThereAreNoGurus wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:55 pm
Forester wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:23 am The 2021-24 Bear Market begins with problems at the periphery (Turkey, hedge funds holding Chinese tech).
Final official prediction. I will not post in this thread again if I am proved mistaken.
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Looks like Forester is not a man of his/her word.

And is it 2030 already????

Forester sock-puppet predicts SPY won't hit 400 until 2030!
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*LOL*
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lostdog wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:58 pm Poor bears. Always getting picked on... :twisted:
Nobody asked them to predict a crash though. They're coming up on their own with all kinds of crazy predictions that don't materialize.
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Looks like Forester should catch the next train out of Bogleheadville, before the townsfolk give him the Game of Thrones treatment... Parading him naked in the streets, following him and chanting "Shame! Shame! Shame!" while ringing a bell...

I love he gets some people riled up on the UP/ DOWN threads... all while posting seemingly-genuine and serious comments on multiple other threads. :mrgreen:
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OohLaLa wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:51 pm Looks like Forester should catch the next train out of Bogleheadville, before the townsfolk give him the Game of Thrones treatment... Parading him naked in the streets, following him and chanting "Shame! Shame! Shame!" while ringing a bell...

I love he gets some people riled up on the UP/ DOWN threads... all while posting seemingly-genuine and serious comments on multiple other threads. :mrgreen:
We love him. Whenever he predicts the end of the bull market, stocks soar.
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OohLaLa wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:51 pm Looks like Forester should catch the next train out of Bogleheadville, before the townsfolk give him the Game of Thrones treatment... Parading him naked in the streets, following him and chanting "Shame! Shame! Shame!" while ringing a bell...

I love he gets some people riled up on the UP/ DOWN threads... all while posting seemingly-genuine and serious comments on multiple other threads. :mrgreen:
He makes me giggle.

Especially on the soaring / free fall threads, people take it too seriously.
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watchnerd wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:14 pm
OohLaLa wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:51 pm Looks like Forester should catch the next train out of Bogleheadville, before the townsfolk give him the Game of Thrones treatment... Parading him naked in the streets, following him and chanting "Shame! Shame! Shame!" while ringing a bell...

I love he gets some people riled up on the UP/ DOWN threads... all while posting seemingly-genuine and serious comments on multiple other threads. :mrgreen:
He makes me giggle.

Especially on the soaring / free fall threads, people take it too seriously.
I think Forester takes his predictions seriously. Most of the rest of us not so much.
Trade the news and you will lose.
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ThereAreNoGurus wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:23 pm
watchnerd wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:14 pm
OohLaLa wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:51 pm Looks like Forester should catch the next train out of Bogleheadville, before the townsfolk give him the Game of Thrones treatment... Parading him naked in the streets, following him and chanting "Shame! Shame! Shame!" while ringing a bell...

I love he gets some people riled up on the UP/ DOWN threads... all while posting seemingly-genuine and serious comments on multiple other threads. :mrgreen:
He makes me giggle.

Especially on the soaring / free fall threads, people take it too seriously.
I think Forester takes his predictions seriously. Most of the rest of us not so much.
If Forester did, then he wouldn't be coming back here as he said he'd leave.
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I don’t think he does take them seriously. He sounds so confident but I think he is just baiting us for fun. I think its funny.
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ThereAreNoGurus wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:23 pm

I think Forester takes his predictions seriously. Most of the rest of us not so much.
Nah.

It's all a lark.

It's pretty easy to yank the chains of Bogleheads.

Anything smacking of market timing or predictions gets people all triggered.
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watchnerd wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:45 pm
ThereAreNoGurus wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:23 pm

I think Forester takes his predictions seriously. Most of the rest of us not so much.
Nah.

It's all a lark.

It's pretty easy to yank the chains of Bogleheads.

Anything smacking of market timing or predictions gets people all triggered.
or DCA, emergency fund...
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I don't think Forrester is serious as well. Though it does look like current SP500 is peaking past the long term trend, it can continue going up for a few more year or stay flat or go down :twisted: Only Forrester knows for sure :beer

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watchnerd wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:45 pm Anything smacking of market timing or predictions gets people all triggered.
All it takes to get me riled up is someone spending a lot of money on obsolete timepieces! :D
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jarjarM wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:52 pm SP500 total return from 1871 to April 1st 2021.
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We're due for a reversion any century now.
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zaboomafoozarg wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:02 pm
jarjarM wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:52 pm SP500 total return from 1871 to April 1st 2021.
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We're due for a reversion any century now.
Yes, SPX futures -0.25% so far. Let's see what happens.
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Marseille07 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:47 pm Yes, SPX futures -0.25% so far.
I see you're back at it :wink:
Let's see what happens.
Indeed...
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jarjarM wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:52 pm SP500 total return from 1871 to April 1st 2021.
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I don’t know how they can extrapolate the S&P 500 all the way back to 1871 when it was only devised in 1957. I remember 1957.
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000 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:13 pm
Marseille07 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:47 pm Yes, SPX futures -0.25% so far.
I see you're back at it :wink:
Let's see what happens.
Indeed...
Yes, futures unchanged. Brace for impact.
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Having some red days is actually healthy, we're up like 3% in April already.
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Nicolas wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:20 pm
jarjarM wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:52 pm SP500 total return from 1871 to April 1st 2021.
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I don’t know how they can extrapolate the S&P 500 all the way back to 1871 when it was only devised in 1957. I remember 1957.
You’re right, I should’ve write S&P total return since to 500 was created later.
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This morning we are suffering from some classic free falling.
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I don't even have to check the markets anymore . . . if the free falling sub is at the top or continues to soar is at the top, I can get all the information I need . . . . :wink:
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With the recent focus on the 10yr, and whether or not it will go higher, I found this oldie but goodie from early 2018 where Bloomberg was worried about another taper tantrum. link
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Any news? Suddenly SPX went from +0.1% to -0.4% in 10 minutes. Wow.
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Haven’t read the story yet, but wonder if the crypto money laundering issue will hit stocks at all tonight. If btc drops 15%, is stocks might drop 1-2% or so potentially.
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Weekend Wall Street has down about .3% so maybe...
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fanmail wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:21 am Weekend Wall Street has down about .3% so maybe...
Weekend Wall Street is worth nothing unless it's up or down by several percent at least.
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fanmail wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:18 am Haven’t read the story yet, but wonder if the crypto money laundering issue will hit stocks at all tonight. If btc drops 15%, is stocks might drop 1-2% or so potentially.
Why do you think BTC dropping 15% would shake the S&P500 by 1-2% :confused I am not seeing a connection.
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Marseille07 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:30 am

Why do you think BTC dropping 15% would shake the S&P500 by 1-2% :confused I am not seeing a connection.
TSLA?
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watchnerd wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:13 am
Marseille07 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:30 am

Why do you think BTC dropping 15% would shake the S&P500 by 1-2% :confused I am not seeing a connection.
TSLA?
I guess TSLA would be a non-zero contributing factor. Iiuc they aren't even 1% of S&P500, let alone their BTC holdings going down by 15%.
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Marseille07 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:30 am
fanmail wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:18 am Haven’t read the story yet, but wonder if the crypto money laundering issue will hit stocks at all tonight. If btc drops 15%, is stocks might drop 1-2% or so potentially.
Why do you think BTC dropping 15% would shake the S&P500 by 1-2% :confused I am not seeing a connection.
Who knows what funds are connected. Could just be a risk off signal in general. Just speculating is all.
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fanmail wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:43 am
Marseille07 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:30 am
fanmail wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:18 am Haven’t read the story yet, but wonder if the crypto money laundering issue will hit stocks at all tonight. If btc drops 15%, is stocks might drop 1-2% or so potentially.
Why do you think BTC dropping 15% would shake the S&P500 by 1-2% :confused I am not seeing a connection.
Who knows what funds are connected. Could just be a risk off signal in general. Just speculating is all.
I agree, I think at this point crypto is big enough to affect the market, even if they are not directly connected. Some will be rebalancing to buy crypto therefore selling stocks? Just speculating here.
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fanmail wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:43 am Could just be a risk off signal in general.
Could be a risk off signal.

We'll see what Treasuries and gold do.
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watchnerd wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:40 am
fanmail wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:43 am Could just be a risk off signal in general.
Could be a risk off signal.

We'll see what Treasuries and gold do.
If people sell equities because BTC dropped by 15%, I'll gladly buy their shares on the cheap.
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Marseille07 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:42 am
If people sell equities because BTC dropped by 15%, I'll gladly buy their shares on the cheap.
You have to wash off the crypto smell on those used shares, though.
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watchnerd wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:47 am
Marseille07 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:42 am
If people sell equities because BTC dropped by 15%, I'll gladly buy their shares on the cheap.
You have to wash off the crypto smell on those used shares, though.
Should be Mr. Clean, right out of a laundromat: https://twitter.com/fxhedgers/status/13 ... 7144730626
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Marseille07 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:26 am I guess TSLA would be a non-zero contributing factor. Iiuc they aren't even 1% of S&P500, let alone their BTC holdings going down by 15%.
Tesla is 2.1% of the S&P 500 currently and its earnings right now are mostly BTC appreciation. Any move in BTC heavily influences the profitability of TSLA, regardless of the broader reaction of the market.
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Marseille07 wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:52 am Should be Mr. Clean, right out of a laundromat: https://twitter.com/fxhedgers/status/13 ... 7144730626
Shocker.

Who could have imagined that the national currency of Madripoor would be tied up in money laundering? :wink: :moneybag
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Salary came in, bought the dip.
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Stef wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:54 am Salary came in, bought the dip.
Yes, S&P is all the way back down to levels last seen on ..... last Thursday, 4/15/21. :D
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We are seeing a flight to safety: i.e., to GameStop and Dogecoin. Welcome to the new world...
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Stinky wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:58 am
Stef wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:54 am Salary came in, bought the dip.
Yes, S&P is all the way back down to levels last seen on ..... last Thursday, 4/15/21. :D
Yep, it's definitely panic time! :shock:
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Stinky wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:58 am Yes, S&P is all the way back down to levels last seen on ..... last Thursday, 4/15/21. :D
Is it allowed to do that?
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ImUrHuckleberry wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:22 pm
Stinky wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:58 am Yes, S&P is all the way back down to levels last seen on ..... last Thursday, 4/15/21. :D
Is it allowed to do that?
It's clearly a gaping hole in the SEC regulations and S&P500 should be legally required to only go up. I propose to call it the "Stonks Regulation of 2021"....
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Another -1% or -2% and the Fed will come to the rescue.
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occambogle wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:37 am
ImUrHuckleberry wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:22 pm
Stinky wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:58 am Yes, S&P is all the way back down to levels last seen on ..... last Thursday, 4/15/21. :D
Is it allowed to do that?
It's clearly a gaping hole in the SEC regulations and S&P500 should be legally required to only go up. I propose to call it the "Stonks Regulation of 2021"....
Agreed. Let's start a change.org petition!
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This is merely a Heisenberg-Farady rapprochement that is reinforcing the glide path. I expect stocks to go up again soon.
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Damn, Netflix down 10% after hours. Huge miss on earnings.
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Lots of red today. :o

Orders went in :moneybag
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z3r0c00l wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:00 am This is merely a Heisenberg-Farady rapprochement that is reinforcing the glide path. I expect stocks to go up again soon.
Congratulations on the word salad of the day award. :D
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as9 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:11 pm Damn, Netflix down 10% after hours. Huge miss on earnings.
that's going to show up tomorrow in the SPX?

Small Caps got killed today!
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