We do tend to take the ubiquitous for granted.jarjarM wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:52 pmBut those data centers are very much an energy drain.HomerJ wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:27 amYeah moving 1s and 0s through a wire takes a lot less energy than pushing a 4000 lb car 40 miles each day.absolute zero wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:28 pmYou are right, the energy spent powering a vehicle with gasoline doesn’t hold a candle to the energy spent on electricity to power an internet router.Beensabu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:39 pmdukeblue219 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:01 am In an energy crisis I'd rather own Zoom than a lot of "blue chip" stocks. It's one more reason folks would work from home and their costs aren't energy dependent.
Internet. Electricity.
Not energy dependent. Nope, not at all.
What the actual what.
Come on…
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Something going on? Suddenly SPX -0.5%.
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I noticed that too. NAZZ, S&P 500, and Dow 30 are all down. Market was slightly and mostly up earlier, not aware of any news.
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Suddenly deep red is my favorite market flutter
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Don't worry. You'll know soon enough. All of the financial news sites will have headlines in the format of "[index] is [up/down/neutral] because [x/y or z]". All day, every day, like clockwork.
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Not sure but we r heading down for whatever reason or maybe no reason at all
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Snapchat warned Apple's privacy changes will hurt their growth, which is dragging down all of tech for some reason.Keenobserver wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:50 am Not sure but we r heading down for whatever reason or maybe no reason at all
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Turned out Chair Powell was speaking this morning. The sharp drop was probably related to what he was saying.
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aapl now down almost 5% after their earnings miss
amazon down over 5% after their earnings miss
uh starbucks and gilead missed also and down
might be a volatile ride tomorrow
amazon down over 5% after their earnings miss
uh starbucks and gilead missed also and down
might be a volatile ride tomorrow
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Yup. The supply and labor shortages are real issues right now, but it will eventually sort itself out.
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Not sure what to say, the traders cluelessly bought up 1% today...
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This marks the beginning of the end. The bubble shall burst.
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yeah that's not moving much yet. Nasdaq is down a little more at -.60% but not a ton yet either.
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I think there's lots of waiting for earning conf call to see how much of it is due to short term disruption of the supply chain issue. But tomorrow will likely be a red day.
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What are you going to buy?
The supply chain issues we all knew about. Now, we're seeing it come through on earnings. This shouldn't be shocking. What we don't know is how long it will last.
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That may definitely put a lid on the fun, but are supply chain issues enough to stop this bull? This bull market (talking the last 40 years here) was built on easy money and until that goes away or people stop believing in the currency I think the bull probably goes on.
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Why not las 100 years? Lol . How one can invest with this believe being me000 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:47 pmThat may definitely put a lid on the fun, but are supply chain issues enough to stop this bull? This bull market (talking the last 40 years here) was built on easy money..
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The life must be hard with constant pessimism?
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Volker was Fed chairman until 1987, so I guess you meant the last 35 years, not the last 40 years?
Did Greenspan (chairman for the following 18 years) really open the free money spigot starting in 1987?
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The spigots were opened in 2008-2009 by then Fed Chairman Obi-Wan Bernanke.
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Eh, as an Apple and Amazon shareholder, today isn't that bad. There were a lot of positives in both reports, and the labor and supply issues are not going to be permanent problems.
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We are only $4,500 off our portfolio ATH.
My individual stocks have done some heavy lifting this week, mostly Microsoft.
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My individual stocks have done some heavy lifting this week, mostly Microsoft.
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I can't predict the end of the bull market. But it does make sense that vendors will sell less if they can buy less. And it makes sense that their margins will shrink if they can't pass on all of their labor costs to their customers. We should expect to see margins tighten if demand ever cools off. All that I can do is plan for lower returns in the future.000 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:47 pmThat may definitely put a lid on the fun, but are supply chain issues enough to stop this bull? This bull market (talking the last 40 years here) was built on easy money and until that goes away or people stop believing in the currency I think the bull probably goes on.
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If a person can't predict their own behavior, what makes them think they can predict stock market returns?
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The strong rally we started the day with is now fading badly. Oh no!
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Darn it, didn't work. NAZZ is down now.
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When the Shiller PE ratio hit 40 today, I felt OK moving from 76/24 to 75/25. I didn't sell VOO at the high of the day, but 432.50 is pretty close.
https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe
https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe
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So you are the one who caused this.Starfox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:48 pm When the Shiller PE ratio hit 40 today, I felt OK moving from 76/24 to 75/25. I didn't sell VOO at the high of the day, but 432.50 is pretty close.
https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe
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My IPS says to move 3% of my portfolio back into VOO if it falls 10% so I'll try to help everyone next time when the sky is falling.nedsaid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:50 pmSo you are the one who caused this.Starfox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:48 pm When the Shiller PE ratio hit 40 today, I felt OK moving from 76/24 to 75/25. I didn't sell VOO at the high of the day, but 432.50 is pretty close.
https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe
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Your IPS is pretty precise. Taking the effort to track and trade a 1% shift in AA...?Starfox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:01 pmMy IPS says to move 3% of my portfolio back into VOO if it falls 10% so I'll try to help everyone next time when the sky is falling.nedsaid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:50 pmSo you are the one who caused this.Starfox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:48 pm When the Shiller PE ratio hit 40 today, I felt OK moving from 76/24 to 75/25. I didn't sell VOO at the high of the day, but 432.50 is pretty close.
https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe
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Whew! Markets rallying again. Posting in the free fall thread saved the day! Who knew that Nedsaid could move the markets?
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We really crashed off the runway today
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Why the drop today?
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Why not? It goes up, it goes down. A single day's activity is no more worthwhile than a single hour or minute of activity.
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More sellers than buyers.
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Taper up in progress...
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Sorry everyone. I bought Friday morning, hence why that was the all-time high.
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It's funny to see TSLA fall 10% based on Musk's tweet when his sale of stock is likely pre-determined and done so for tax purposes. It's such an emotional stock.
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More sellers than buyers at the old higher price. Same number of sellers and buyers at the new lower price.
Occasionally there are more sellers than buyers and the stock value craters and gets delisted unless /wsb picks it up as a meme stock. Then it's
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Future is a bit red so just warming up the thread for tomorrow