What is VOO up YTD

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What is VOO up YTD

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Google says it is 15.68
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While vanguard says its 13.72

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So which one is right? The computation by google seems correct if you divide the price of VOO on the two days.
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My guess is one includes dividends and the other doesn’t.
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thenextguy wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:58 am My guess is one includes dividends and the other doesn’t.
Google's computation is just the price on 06/24 divided by the price on 01/01, so it should not include dividends, still it is higher than Vanguard's which should include dividends.
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Vanguard is measuring from close of market 12/31/20. Google may be starting from 1/4/21 close of market, the first day of trading in 2021, when stocks went down 1.5%.
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Google is showing Jun 24, 12:43 pm. Vanguard is showing 6/23/2021, presumably at market close. I don't know if that's enough to explain the difference. Generally it's not worth the effect to track things like that down. But there was an overnight jump.

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Today's price: 392.11
Dec 31 price (w Mar div) 342.98
Jan 4 price (w Mar div) 337.84

Gain from Dec 31: 14.3% including div
Gain from Jan 4: 16.1% including div

Edit: three things I can thik of that can cause people honestly trying to caluclate this to get different answers:

Exact choice of date.
Including (or not) dividends and cap gains (latter with respect to MFs rather than ETFs)
Exact selection of price to use. Choosing the closing price may or may not be the standard, don't know.
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VOO did NOT go ex-dividend today. If it had, you all would have been enjoying figuring that out as well. VTI and some other ETFs went ex-dividend today.
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Looking at the two charts, the google estimate is dated today and it looks like a quite current price. The Vanguard display says Jun 23. VOO is up somewhere around $2.25 today.

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So, it look like Vanguard is using the Dec 31 price and the Jan 23 price and is accounting for the dividend.

Google is using today's price and Jan 4 close price and is not accounting for the dividend.

The 3/26 dividend was 1.263
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http://performance.morningstar.com/fund ... tion?t=VOO

It's up: 13.82% (including dividends reinvested)
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Seems like vanguard is using the 12/31 price and Google is using 01/01, which one is the correct YTD definition?
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SweetFire wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:32 pm Seems like vanguard is using the 12/31 price and Google is using 01/01, which one is the correct YTD definition?
Those should be the same, as the market is closed on 1/1.
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OP, what are you planning to do with this information? Knowing your intentions might help us give you a better answer.
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UpperNwGuy wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:41 pm OP, what are you planning to do with this information? Knowing your intentions might help us give you a better answer.
good point. hopefully the OP doesn't think s/he can arbitrage buying it through Vanguard but selling it through Google. :greedy
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arcticpineapplecorp. wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:50 pm
UpperNwGuy wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:41 pm OP, what are you planning to do with this information? Knowing your intentions might help us give you a better answer.
good point. hopefully the OP doesn't think s/he can arbitrage buying it through Vanguard but selling it through Google. :greedy
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UpperNwGuy wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:41 pm OP, what are you planning to do with this information? Knowing your intentions might help us give you a better answer.
I have a 401k through Prudential which is 100% in VOO, the app told me the YTD was 13.74 while Google told me VOO was up 15.68, so I wonder if there were some shenanigans by Prudential, so I researched on the Vanguard website and they matched Prudential's numbers, then I thought it was strange that such as simple calculation should have two different answers.
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