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atdharris wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:48 am
lostdog wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:21 pm Netflix down 1.25%...

Will we have another earnings season disappoinment?
You never know. I don't think NFLX guided down or anything like that. It's probably because DB downgraded the stock because of slowing revenue growth, which could actually plague other big tech names given they are now being measured against record growth during the pandemic
It's an opportunity to buy if you are holding NFLX directly. Quite simply DB is wrong, but sometimes the analysts issue downgrades so their clients can buy on the cheap.
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Marseille07 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:38 am
atdharris wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:48 am
lostdog wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:21 pm Netflix down 1.25%...

Will we have another earnings season disappoinment?
You never know. I don't think NFLX guided down or anything like that. It's probably because DB downgraded the stock because of slowing revenue growth, which could actually plague other big tech names given they are now being measured against record growth during the pandemic
It's an opportunity to buy if you are holding NFLX directly. Quite simply DB is wrong, but sometimes the analysts issue downgrades so their clients can buy on the cheap.
I don't own any NFLX, but it looks like it has rebounded this morning. The growth of all of these tech companies will inevitably slow in 2021 after the banner year 2020 was for them. It's not realistic to think they could keep up that pace forever. But I know the game analysts play.
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lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:29 am
Vtsax100 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:26 am Looks like some nice soaring has started for the day.
Please, no tapering today.
Please get to the gym ASAP. :annoyed
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Vtsax100 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:52 am
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:29 am
Vtsax100 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:26 am Looks like some nice soaring has started for the day.
Please, no tapering today.
Please get to the gym ASAP. :annoyed
I'm smelling a taper...
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lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:59 am
Vtsax100 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:52 am
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:29 am
Vtsax100 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:26 am Looks like some nice soaring has started for the day.
Please, no tapering today.
Please get to the gym ASAP. :annoyed
I'm smelling a taper...
And here we go...
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lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:19 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:59 am
Vtsax100 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:52 am
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:29 am
Vtsax100 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:26 am Looks like some nice soaring has started for the day.
Please, no tapering today.
Please get to the gym ASAP. :annoyed
I'm smelling a taper...
And here we go...
Just a nasdaq thing right now....
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Dow records intraday high. S&P .2% off ATH I believe.

Let's get this thread movin' y'all!
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Maybe S&P can still close at ATH :twisted:
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Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
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IBM is down significantly AH due to miss on revenue.
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lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pm Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
Because all the Tesla investors were expecting even MORE profit and revenue, and had already priced those higher numbers in.
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Admiral wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:07 pm Dow records intraday high. S&P .2% off ATH I believe.

Let's get this thread movin' y'all!
I think the DJIA is obsolete and should be retired. I never look at it anymore, only the S&P 500 which is much more representative of the stock market.
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Finally that book I got, "Dow 36,000: The New Strategy for Profiting from the Coming Rise in the Stock Market," is going to pay off. Just waiting for "Dow 100,000: Fact or Fiction" to pay off.
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Nicolas wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:17 pm
Admiral wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:07 pm Dow records intraday high. S&P .2% off ATH I believe.

Let's get this thread movin' y'all!
I think the DJIA is obsolete and should be retired. I never look at it anymore, only the S&P 500 which is much more representative of the stock market.
That's not going to happen any time soon. How else could the media headlines yell "The Dow Plummets over 1000 points!" on a RBD? Much better than a boring old 100+ points for the S&P.
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One thing I learned these days is: For stock indexes and Bitcoins, buy all the dips.
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flyingaway wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:38 pm One thing I learned these days is: For stock indexes and Bitcoins, buy all the dips.
That always works...until it does not.
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Candor wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:30 pm
Nicolas wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:17 pm
Admiral wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:07 pm Dow records intraday high. S&P .2% off ATH I believe.

Let's get this thread movin' y'all!
I think the DJIA is obsolete and should be retired. I never look at it anymore, only the S&P 500 which is much more representative of the stock market.
That's not going to happen any time soon. How else could the media headlines yell "The Dow Plummets over 1000 points!" on a RBD? Much better than a boring old 100+ points for the S&P.
I agree it’s so entrenched in the culture and besides that Dow Jones owns that index which itself and the WSJ is owned by Rupert Murdoch who most likely wouldn’t want it to go away.
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Earnings season will be a disappointment again.
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lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:55 pm Earnings season will be a disappointment again.
Looking like it :twisted: :P
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jarjarM wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:57 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:55 pm Earnings season will be a disappointment again.
Looking like it :twisted: :P
How so? Markets near ATH...
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Marseille07 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:58 pm
jarjarM wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:57 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:55 pm Earnings season will be a disappointment again.
Looking like it :twisted: :P
How so? Markets near ATH...
After earning, there's a drop? Or maybe just reverse psychology
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jarjarM wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:05 pm
Marseille07 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:58 pm
jarjarM wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:57 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:55 pm Earnings season will be a disappointment again.
Looking like it :twisted: :P
How so? Markets near ATH...
After earning, there's a drop? Or maybe just reverse psychology
Yeah that's possible, as they say buy the rumor, sell the news.
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lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:55 pm Earnings season will be a disappointment again.
To which earnings season do you refer? Q3?
Overall, 8% of the companies in the S&P 500 have reported actual results for Q3 2021 to date. Of these companies, 80% have reported actual EPS above estimates, which is above the five-year average of 76%. In aggregate, companies are reporting earnings that are 14.7% above estimates, which is also above the five-year average of 8.4%.
Analysts also expect earnings growth of more than 20% for the fourth quarter and earnings growth of more than 40% for the full year.
https://insight.factset.com/sp-500-earn ... er-15-2021
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456M wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:34 am
Vtsax100 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:26 am Looks like some nice soaring has started for the day.
Seems like everything is soaring. Even the currency that shall not be named.
Everything except gold and silver.
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lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pm Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
Wait a second, TSLA went from $563 on May 19th to $865 today and people are disappointed? I don't understand. Can you explain why that's a bad thing?
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mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:23 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pm Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
Wait a second, TSLA went from $563 on May 19th to $865 today and people are disappointed? I don't understand. Can you explain why that's a bad thing?
It should double every 18 months, otherwise it's a disappointment.
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anoop wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:25 pm
mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:23 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pm Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
Wait a second, TSLA went from $563 on May 19th to $865 today and people are disappointed? I don't understand. Can you explain why that's a bad thing?
It should double every 18 months, otherwise it's a disappointment.
Not to me or anyone who is a regular investor. Insane returns aren't always the mantra of folks who invest in good companies that make a profit. I would take a 21% return from even the $700 level. I guess I'm not normal or maybe I'm too much of a conservative Boglehead who would be fine with 6% a year. Ho hum, no bother lost dog.
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mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:34 pm
anoop wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:25 pm
mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:23 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pm Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
Wait a second, TSLA went from $563 on May 19th to $865 today and people are disappointed? I don't understand. Can you explain why that's a bad thing?
It should double every 18 months, otherwise it's a disappointment.
Not to me or anyone who is a regular investor. Insane returns aren't always the mantra of folks who invest in good companies that make a profit. I would take a 21% return from even the $700 level. I guess I'm not normal or maybe I'm too much of a conservative Boglehead who would be fine with 6% a year. Ho hum, no bother lost dog.
Are they disappointed or cashing in?
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sailaway wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:35 pm
mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:34 pm
anoop wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:25 pm
mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:23 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pm Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
Wait a second, TSLA went from $563 on May 19th to $865 today and people are disappointed? I don't understand. Can you explain why that's a bad thing?
It should double every 18 months, otherwise it's a disappointment.
Not to me or anyone who is a regular investor. Insane returns aren't always the mantra of folks who invest in good companies that make a profit. I would take a 21% return from even the $700 level. I guess I'm not normal or maybe I'm too much of a conservative Boglehead who would be fine with 6% a year. Ho hum, no bother lost dog.
Are they disappointed or cashing in?
I wouldn't know. I don't attempt to know the sentiment of all TSLA bulls or anyone in the market for that matter. All I know is that lostdog made a comment that TSLA was down after earnings by a smidgen. If the run up from May is any indication, I wouldn't be so concerned if I owned TSLA. Currently, I don't. It was only a comment that TSLA being down after earnings isn't an indication of whether the stock will move up or down, just that it has moved up recently.
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A little soaring for NASDAQ this morning, but S&P is being left in the dust.
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mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:47 pm
sailaway wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:35 pm
mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:34 pm
anoop wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:25 pm
mikeyzito22 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:23 pm
Wait a second, TSLA went from $563 on May 19th to $865 today and people are disappointed? I don't understand. Can you explain why that's a bad thing?
It should double every 18 months, otherwise it's a disappointment.
Not to me or anyone who is a regular investor. Insane returns aren't always the mantra of folks who invest in good companies that make a profit. I would take a 21% return from even the $700 level. I guess I'm not normal or maybe I'm too much of a conservative Boglehead who would be fine with 6% a year. Ho hum, no bother lost dog.
Are they disappointed or cashing in?
I wouldn't know. I don't attempt to know the sentiment of all TSLA bulls or anyone in the market for that matter. All I know is that lostdog made a comment that TSLA was down after earnings by a smidgen. If the run up from May is any indication, I wouldn't be so concerned if I owned TSLA. Currently, I don't. It was only a comment that TSLA being down after earnings isn't an indication of whether the stock will move up or down, just that it has moved up recently.
It's very often down after earnings. Like, they beat "expectations" but not the expectations that they will beat the expectations as much as expected?

It was down 1% AH. Up 2% a few minutes after open, now up 3.6%, one hour after open. But the day is still very young and it has hours to fall back down. That's TSLA for you. Huge swings, it's an emotional stock.
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CurlyDave wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:46 am A little soaring for NASDAQ this morning, but S&P is being left in the dust.
S&P is approaching positive territory for the day.

But, as has been typical for several years now, VXUS lags behind and is in the red.
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Stinky wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:14 am
CurlyDave wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:46 am A little soaring for NASDAQ this morning, but S&P is being left in the dust.
S&P is approaching positive territory for the day.

But, as has been typical for several years now, VXUS lags behind and is in the red.
I don't know the reason but Nikkei went -1.9%, I'm sure this is a factor.
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Gotta love your ex-US holdings :D
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TSLA singlehandedly keeping Nasdaq in the green.
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HomerJ wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:54 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pm Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
Because all the Tesla investors were expecting even MORE profit and revenue, and had already priced those higher numbers in.
It was just a crapshoot. Look at today, +2.8%. If they were disappointed by the ER, you can't explain today's action.
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Marseille07 wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:04 am
HomerJ wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:54 pm
lostdog wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:50 pm Tesla down after hours after record profit and revenue...
Because all the Tesla investors were expecting even MORE profit and revenue, and had already priced those higher numbers in.
It was just a crapshoot. Look at today, +2.8%. If they were disappointed by the ER, you can't explain today's action.
I agree it's best to not try and explain any single day's action :)
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A little melt up near the end of the session :beer
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By the way, we should've all bought DWAC with every penny last night and sell at end of the session, 357% so far :twisted:
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Nice that it only took 21 days to make back all the losses in September and then some
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atdharris wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:48 am Gotta love your ex-US holdings :D
Who are you talking to? I don't hold ex-US.
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Just soared into the two comma portfolio club today. Life is good! :D
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dogagility wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:09 pm Just soared into the two comma portfolio club today. Life is good! :D
Grats! :sharebeer
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Bad earning from INTC, SNAP. FB is dropping because SNAP said the ad revenue stream is constrained by economy and AAPL. Looks like a red day for QQQ tomorrow.
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dogagility wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:09 pm Just soared into the two comma portfolio club today. Life is good! :D
Attaboy! That’s a major accomplishment.

You ought to also post this in the “Post Your Financial Milestones” thread.
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jarjarM wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:27 pm Bad earning from INTC, SNAP. FB is dropping because SNAP said the ad revenue stream is constrained by economy and AAPL. Looks like a red day for QQQ tomorrow.
Most of fang is in the red. Good luck QQQer's.
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jarjarM wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:27 pm Bad earning from INTC, SNAP. FB is dropping because SNAP said the ad revenue stream is constrained by economy and AAPL. Looks like a red day for QQQ tomorrow.
If you're still holding SQQQ, that'd be a good day for you?
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Marseille07 wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:30 pm
jarjarM wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:27 pm Bad earning from INTC, SNAP. FB is dropping because SNAP said the ad revenue stream is constrained by economy and AAPL. Looks like a red day for QQQ tomorrow.
If you're still holding SQQQ, that'd be a good day for you?
Yeah, that's true for my play money account. But it won't be good for my main S&P500 account. :x
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I’m waiting for GUSH to DRIP :twisted:
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If your account is more Value oriented, your account was probably down just a tad. If your account is tilted towards Growth, your account was probably up a little. Not sure that is soaring but I guess I will take it. Too bad we don't have a "U.S. Stocks Didn't Do Much Today" thread. :D
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