Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
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Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
Investment portfolio ~$800k. Age 41.
History, for years I ran a simple AA
25% US Total Market VTI
25% US Small Value mix of VBR and DFSVX
25% International ex US VXUS
12.5% Intl Small VSS
12.5% EM VWO
Near the bottom of the 2020 crash (3/23rd) I felt the value / growth gap was absurdly wide and moved to my current allocation:
35% AVUV Advantis US Small Value
15% VTI Vanguard Total Market
15% AVDV Advantis Intl Small Value
15% AVEM Advantis Emerging Markets
15% VXUS Vanguard Global Ex-US
5% “High” yield savings
My plan @ $1m - $2m
30% AVUV Advantis US Small Value
12.5% VTI Vanguard Total Market
12.5% AVDV Advantis Intl Small Value
12.5% AVEM Advantis Emerging Markets
12.5% VXUS Vanguard Global Ex-US
10% High” yield savings
10% BLV Vanguard Long Duration Investment Grade Bond
Plan @ $2m - n
25% AVUV Advantis US Small Value
10% VTI Vanguard Total Market
10% AVDV Advantis Intl Small Value
10% AVEM Advantis Emerging Markets
10% VXUS Vanguard Global Ex-US
10% “High” yield savings
25% BLV Vanguard Long Duration Investment Grade Bond
The theory is to maximize the benefits of diversification through lower correlation of risk factors and geographies. Specifically i am targeting beta, size, value, profitability, term, and a bit of credit risks. I’ve been through three major market corrections now and I handle volatility really well. I also handle tracking errors really well. I’m confident in my behavior. I’m also confident in my liquidity position.
I just started my BLV journey adding in a small allocation to get comfortable with its movements.
Note: I own a $850k house w/ negative bond of $500k @ 2.875% fixed. Important information from an inflation perspective. I have no intention of ever paying off the mortgage on this property. Will downsize before 30-years.
That all said, thoughts? Dare I ask... opinions?
<EDIT> Added fund names.
History, for years I ran a simple AA
25% US Total Market VTI
25% US Small Value mix of VBR and DFSVX
25% International ex US VXUS
12.5% Intl Small VSS
12.5% EM VWO
Near the bottom of the 2020 crash (3/23rd) I felt the value / growth gap was absurdly wide and moved to my current allocation:
35% AVUV Advantis US Small Value
15% VTI Vanguard Total Market
15% AVDV Advantis Intl Small Value
15% AVEM Advantis Emerging Markets
15% VXUS Vanguard Global Ex-US
5% “High” yield savings
My plan @ $1m - $2m
30% AVUV Advantis US Small Value
12.5% VTI Vanguard Total Market
12.5% AVDV Advantis Intl Small Value
12.5% AVEM Advantis Emerging Markets
12.5% VXUS Vanguard Global Ex-US
10% High” yield savings
10% BLV Vanguard Long Duration Investment Grade Bond
Plan @ $2m - n
25% AVUV Advantis US Small Value
10% VTI Vanguard Total Market
10% AVDV Advantis Intl Small Value
10% AVEM Advantis Emerging Markets
10% VXUS Vanguard Global Ex-US
10% “High” yield savings
25% BLV Vanguard Long Duration Investment Grade Bond
The theory is to maximize the benefits of diversification through lower correlation of risk factors and geographies. Specifically i am targeting beta, size, value, profitability, term, and a bit of credit risks. I’ve been through three major market corrections now and I handle volatility really well. I also handle tracking errors really well. I’m confident in my behavior. I’m also confident in my liquidity position.
I just started my BLV journey adding in a small allocation to get comfortable with its movements.
Note: I own a $850k house w/ negative bond of $500k @ 2.875% fixed. Important information from an inflation perspective. I have no intention of ever paying off the mortgage on this property. Will downsize before 30-years.
That all said, thoughts? Dare I ask... opinions?
<EDIT> Added fund names.
Last edited by FiveFactor on Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:23 am, edited 2 times in total.
Small/Value/Profitability: |
30% AVUV |
30% AVDV |
30% AVES |
Momentum: |
5% QMOM |
5% IMOM |
Volatility: |
0.1% PUTW |
Term: |
0.1% BND
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Re: Sanity Check
Oh one last piece of information. My EF is part of this allocation. I do not separate it from my investment portfolio
Small/Value/Profitability: |
30% AVUV |
30% AVDV |
30% AVES |
Momentum: |
5% QMOM |
5% IMOM |
Volatility: |
0.1% PUTW |
Term: |
0.1% BND
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Re: Sanity Check
Bump.... over 200 views and no opinions? I've been lurking here every few months for years. Never seen this before. I'm not sure how to read the lack of reaction?
Small/Value/Profitability: |
30% AVUV |
30% AVDV |
30% AVES |
Momentum: |
5% QMOM |
5% IMOM |
Volatility: |
0.1% PUTW |
Term: |
0.1% BND
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Re: Sanity Check
I am responding, but tbh, it’s not my kind of thing. It’s too fussy for me, and I suspect many other BHs also. Many of us are 2 or 3 find types.FiveFactor wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:00 am Bump.... over 200 views and no opinions? I've been lurking here every few months for years. Never seen this before. I'm not sure how to read the lack of reaction?
I get the FI part but not the RE part of FIRE.
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Re: Sanity Check
For non-Vanguard and Fidelity funds, you probably need to add fund names. I am seeing AVUV more and more on the forum but most don’t know that one off the top of their heads. And the others? Unlikely.
This sentence-
“Specifically i am targeting beta, size, value, profitability, term, and a bit of credit risks.”
A foundation principle of Boglehead-ism is that you can do all this work and likely not beat the market over the long run so why not match the market and use your time for other things?
You don’t explain why you make the change at $2 million. Maybe add that to your post for feedback?
This sentence-
“Specifically i am targeting beta, size, value, profitability, term, and a bit of credit risks.”
A foundation principle of Boglehead-ism is that you can do all this work and likely not beat the market over the long run so why not match the market and use your time for other things?
You don’t explain why you make the change at $2 million. Maybe add that to your post for feedback?
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Re: Sanity Check
Done.lazynovice wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:16 am For non-Vanguard and Fidelity funds, you probably need to add fund names. I am seeing AVUV more and more on the forum but most don’t know that one off the top of their heads. And the others? Unlikely.
Im in the camp that believes in the persistence and diversification benefits of risk factors.lazynovice wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:16 am This sentence-
“Specifically i am targeting beta, size, value, profitability, term, and a bit of credit risks.”
A foundation principle of Boglehead-ism is that you can do all this work and likely not beat the market over the long run so why not match the market and use your time for other things?
The change is based on "I have enough." So it's about de-risking through a barbell approach. Adding longer duration bonds to a five factor equity portfolio accomplishes this.lazynovice wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:16 am You don’t explain why you make the change at $2 million. Maybe add that to your post for feedback?
Small/Value/Profitability: |
30% AVUV |
30% AVDV |
30% AVES |
Momentum: |
5% QMOM |
5% IMOM |
Volatility: |
0.1% PUTW |
Term: |
0.1% BND
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Re: Sanity Check
Don’t you get all the factors by owning the whole market? There are some who tilt toward value or growth but I think the minority. I tried a small and mid cap tilt for three years or so and it was a minor hassle and I was not rewarded economically at all. So I tax loss harvested out of that last March.FiveFactor wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:54 amIm in the camp that believes in the persistence and diversification benefits of risk factors.lazynovice wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:16 am This sentence-
“Specifically i am targeting beta, size, value, profitability, term, and a bit of credit risks.”
A foundation principle of Boglehead-ism is that you can do all this work and likely not beat the market over the long run so why not match the market and use your time for other things?
Maybe retitle the thread with something about “Factors” to attract other Factorheads.
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Re: Sanity Check
No you dont. By definition, owning the market only exposes you to market risk - which only explains like 66% of portfolio returns. Not to size, value, profitability, investment, momentum etc etc that when combined explain 95%+lazynovice wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:01 am Don’t you get all the factors by owning the whole market?
Small/Value/Profitability: |
30% AVUV |
30% AVDV |
30% AVES |
Momentum: |
5% QMOM |
5% IMOM |
Volatility: |
0.1% PUTW |
Term: |
0.1% BND
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Re: Sanity Check
+1lazynovice wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:01 am Maybe retitle the thread with something about “Factors” to attract other Factorheads.
Thread only got me to click because I’m interested in sanity. I’m not at all interested in factors.
I get the FI part but not the RE part of FIRE.
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Re: Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
Is there a forum anyone can recommend where they discuss factor portfolios? Thanks!
Small/Value/Profitability: |
30% AVUV |
30% AVDV |
30% AVES |
Momentum: |
5% QMOM |
5% IMOM |
Volatility: |
0.1% PUTW |
Term: |
0.1% BND
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Re: Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
The forum for Ben Felix's rational reminder podcast has a whole category devoted to factors and a lot of factor discussion in general. https://community.rationalreminder.ca/FiveFactor wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:23 pm Is there a forum anyone can recommend where they discuss factor portfolios? Thanks!
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Re: Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
Thank you!luckyducky99 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:49 pmThe forum for Ben Felix's rational reminder podcast has a whole category devoted to factors and a lot of factor discussion in general. https://community.rationalreminder.ca/FiveFactor wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:23 pm Is there a forum anyone can recommend where they discuss factor portfolios? Thanks!
Small/Value/Profitability: |
30% AVUV |
30% AVDV |
30% AVES |
Momentum: |
5% QMOM |
5% IMOM |
Volatility: |
0.1% PUTW |
Term: |
0.1% BND
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Re: Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
Reddit possibly? R/investing?FiveFactor wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:23 pm Is there a forum anyone can recommend where they discuss factor portfolios? Thanks!
I appreciate the market returns and low cost of a broadly diversified one fund portfolio. The only beta I am aware of swims in my kid's fish bowl.
I hold index funds because I do not overestimate my ability to pick stocks OR stock pickers.
Re: Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
I think now that you have changed the title you will get more replies. My thought is you seem to understand what you are doing and you have a plan, so just stay with it. There are Bogleheads who invest in factors, so you aren't alone. The only eyebrow raiser is your move to increase small value based on recent performance.FiveFactor wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:23 pm Is there a forum anyone can recommend where they discuss factor portfolios? Thanks!
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Re: Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
I would not bother with AVEM and just use VWO instead. You have enough exposure to small and value elsewhere, and I don’t think AVEM is additive enough to merit the cost
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Re: Sanity Check - Factor Portfolio Review
Your portfolio is a little heavy value/SCV for my taste but seems reasonable assuming you're able to stick with it.
Me personally I target 30% SCV/30%momentum/40% minimum volatility.
I'm not a fan of corporate bonds. I prefer treasuries for my very small bond allocation for the diversification benefit.
Me personally I target 30% SCV/30%momentum/40% minimum volatility.
I'm not a fan of corporate bonds. I prefer treasuries for my very small bond allocation for the diversification benefit.
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